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Question 29: Are you concerned about racism in the gender identity rhetoric?
Not at all | A little | A moderate amount | A lot | A great deal | Total | Missing | Total | |
Number | 157 | 158 | 471 | 670 | 1466 | 2923 | 20 | 2943 |
% | 5.3 | 5.4 | 16 | 22.8 | 49.8 | 99.3 | 0.7 | 100 |
Fig. 39
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “I don’t work outside the home at the moment but I volunteer with women affected by prostitution. I stated to the staff member I report to that I didn’t want to work with TiMs, as I discovered during training that they sometimes do, as my reason for volunteering was feminism, I wanted to work with women. I was told that was fine, sometimes volunteers were surprised that there were so many African women. I tried to make it clear that I don’t give a damn where women seeking help are from or the colour of their skin and that gender critical views are not in any way comparable to racism but I’m still not sure she got it. I’m still there after two years, my views on gender are now even clearer and more strongly held and, judging by the policy creep in all organisations, I anticipate having to make a stand at some point and I’m not looking forward to it.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “The comparisons between racial justice movements and “trans rights” are cynical at best. Comparing the exclusion of males from female spaces to the exclusion of Black women is offensive. The appropriation and misinterpretation of cultural concepts such as “two spirit” is offensive also.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “I am a black lesbian and I have never had racist abuse like I have because of the trans issue.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “Equating trans inclusiveness to inclusion of black women in women’s spaces is one of the most racist acts I’ve witnessed in this debate. It underlines the fact that these people do NOT consider black women “woman enough” and they see womanhood as a performance of white femininity rather than a state of existence”.
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “Everyone acts as if it’s just white women speaking out. I am a native, a big mouthed native at that, and I’m never going to stay silent as our children are sterilised, bloodlines are ended and Big Pharma laugh all the way to the bank. It’s racist af. Also, it’s predominantly a white movement – a middle class malaise.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “The way they use colonialism and slavery as the reason there is binary view of the human sex in other cultures is plainly offensive, as if they could not have developed an explanation of the world based on facts if the Westerners were not to have ‘impose it’. Do they know that there are countries that were never colonised and have a binary concept of sex too? I guess they don’t care.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “I’m a mixed race woman. Constantly being equated with men who want to claim they’re women, constantly having the struggle of black people to men who want to claim femaleness, is shattering. It hurts, to be told I’m the same as a man.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “I believe it is manipulative & dishonest of TRAs to appropriate others struggles to prop up their ideology.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “Gender identity ideology is a predominantly white and western ideology. International organisations are participating in a cultural and linguistic imperialism.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “It concerns me greatly that across the world gender ideology seems to have latched onto various indigenous cultures & rewritten the history of those cultures to include trans. This effectively means that if you are gender-critical, you are also a racist ‘coloniser.’ It makes it much harder to discuss the issues. It is also extremely concerning to see these cultures actually being ‘colonised’ in plain sight by gender ideology.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “I hate and am angry that they compare the real segregation & suffering of black people, to women not wanting men in female spaces.”
RESPONDENT COMMENT: “There’s a horrible dehumanising aspect of gender identity rhetoric that reduces women of colour to ciphers who can be lumped together with men who want to present as women. It’s disgusting.”
Question 30: Would you like to say more about racism in the gender identity rhetoric?
937 women commented on the questions on racism within the GI rhetoric.
Thematic coding revealed the most common concerns of women regarding racism were:
Codes | % of comments on each theme |
Likening Black women to Trans Identified Men | 28.2 |
Racism in general | 7.5 |
Other racist rhetoric in GI | 5.0 |
Accusations of GC racism | 4.7 |
The basic tenets of gender ideology | 3.9 |
Racism/colonialism | 3.2 |
Cultural appropriation | 2.7 |
Impact of loss of women’s spaces | 2.7 |
Driven by misogyny | 1.9 |
Transracial | 1.9 |
Role of institutions in accepting racism within GI | 1.8 |
Accusations of white feminism | 1.7 |
Equating women only spaces with racial segregation | 1.6 |
Denial of sex binary | 1.6 |
Impact on ethnic minority women | 1.5 |
Concern/worry | 1.5 |
Homophobia | 1.3 |
Male entitlement | 1.3 |
Racism within GC | 1.3 |
Women silenced | 1.2 |
Sexism | 0.9 |
Disgust | 0.9 |
Comparison with civil rights movements | 0.7 |
Use of language | 0.7 |
Angry | 0.7 |
Feeling fearful | 0.7 |
Meaning of biological sex constant across cultures | 0.6 |
Impact of loss of women’s rights in different cultures | 0.5 |
Impact on women in the ‘Global South’ | 0.4 |
Impact of changes to language where English is not a first language | 0.4 |
Distressing/upsetting | 0.4 |
Family relationships | 0.3 |
Threats of violence, rape, death etc. | 0.3 |
Sex role stereotypes | 0.3 |
Physical harm | 0.2 |
Psychological harm | 0.2 |
Lack of and need for support | 0.2 |
AGP | 0.2 |
Cultural comparisons of racism in GI | 0.2 |
Female socialisation | 0.2 |
Disability and disabled women | 0.2 |
Comparing ‘transphobia’ to slavery | 0.1 |
Comparing ‘transphobia’ to past genocides | 0.1 |
Pornography, esp. treatment of BW in porn | 0.1 |
Feeling isolated | 0.1 |
Media coverage | 0.1 |
Other issues | 13.8 |
Total | 100 |
Fig. 40
The coding revealed widespread and serious concerns about black women being equated with men who claim to be women, suggesting white women are the prototype for women. Respondents found this to be deeply racist. It also references the historic racist idea that black women are somehow more manly than white women. Respondents found using black women to justify the acceptance of men as women to be profoundly racist.
Women’s Comments
“The equation of so-called ‘trans women’ with black women is obviously racist. However, the rhetoric is overwhelmingly misogynist and any other oppressive language is secondary to that.”
“The narrative that pretends men can be women because black women are women is such vile racism. So is the total ignoring of the safety needs of black women and women of colour who are liable to be more vulnerable. Taking away women’s spaces will impact them terribly but trans activists pretend only white women care about women’s sex-based rights.”
“To use women of colour as a means to compare and validate a male sexual rights movement is deplorable and shameful… as for accusations of sexual racism… what a load of bull… newly invented rhetoric by the trans cult.”
“The sheer gall of some of these trans activists displaying Black Lives Matter in their social media profiles, only to shout a gender critical woman down with “if black women are women, so are trans women” is astonishing. I feel so sorry for women of colour, who are fighting this new woke racism. How can people not see how offensive this kind of rhetoric is? It’s one of the oldest tricks in the book, racist men claiming that black women aren’t real women. It manages to be both racist and sexist because it implies that black women do not conform sufficiently to patriarchal beauty standards, which hold a woman must look and behave in a certain, idealised way.”
“I’ve heard transwomen say that they are as much women as black women are. This is mind blowing. Any woman born female is a woman, no matter her skin colour. But a male born person cannot ever be a woman. The racism here is just appalling.”
“Non-European societies knew before they were colonized where babies come from. This argument is often racist.”
“I’m not quite sure what this means. Although an old friend did say to me that given my views, it was like he was friends with a racist. I’m mixed race btw.”
“The appalling suggestion “if black women are women, so are men” rears its ugly head way too often to be coincidence, together with “black/indigenous people didn’t know about sex until white people told them”.”
“The trope ‘black women, gay women, trans women’ is both racist and homophobic.”
“I believe women are being called racist as a way to silence us from speaking out. I am not a racist so this will not shut me up.”
“One of the first things that horrified me about all this was the ‘trans women are a subset of women like black women’ rhetoric, this is abhorrent. Black Women are not men! This is racism.”
“I find it appalling that some gender-believers suggest that black women are somehow comparable to cross-dressing men. The idea that womanhood is just a white construct is disgustingly racist. I suppose the aim is to undermine female solidarity and the shared womanhood of all ethnicities. The cultural appropriation of ‘third-sex’ or ‘two-spirit’ categories is also quite disturbing.”
“It’s the most idiotic. Saying woman includes black women so can also include men is the most sick thing I’ve heard. Make me so mad that they use WOC like that, as if they don’t have enough to deal with.”
“If you mean gender critical views being likened to racism, yes, It is a spurious argument. But appeals to idealistic young people.”
“White men still dominate, even when they say they’re women.”
“I know that racism in the form of “if black women are women then transwomen are women” happens frequently, and it is a concern. I put it in as “moderate” since while it is concerning, the bigger and more generally dangerous aspects from my POV are others (such as the grooming of children and silencing and abuse of women).”
“Gender ideology is racist in that it attempts to conflate being a male who identifies as a woman with racial ethnicity. It is grotesquely racist and offensive.”
“I find the ‘trans women are as much women as black women’ argument incredibly stupid. I hate the trans/BLM forced teaming and if I was a black woman I would probably be even more furious than I already am. I also abhor the teaming of trans and Irish Travellers – there is very little intersection but trans organisations in Ireland have done exactly the same as they’ve done with BLM.”
“Maintaining that being gender critical is equivalent to being racist, homophobic or prejudiced against disabled people (as did the CEO of Stonewall recently) is a spurious argument and beneath contempt.”
“Women being told that they are similar to racists by saying they won’t date a transperson. It is not the same as racism.”
“It is disgusting that black women are compared to men when people are arguing this ideology, that a black woman is the same as a man, it’s disgusting.”
“A common and deeply problematic comparison I’ve seen online is for black women to be used as a comparison to trans women. E.G. “black women are manly or are a subset of women but they’re still women, just like trans women are women”. It comes up again and again and is extremely racist.”
“It isn’t true that racist segregation is the same as single sex spaces.”
“I cannot abide the suggestion that black women are the same as TIM because spaces were segregated by race in the past. It makes absolutely no sense. Women are women. Men are not women.”
“Comparing ‘trans women’ (men) to black women. (Even comparing testosterone levels as propaganda.) Women of colour can’t speak out about GI or they’re accused of white feminism (by white men). I fear the chronic racism in porn which is influencing this whole movement also. Autogynephile men are heavily influenced by porn and porn is generally racist. I fear the influence of porn on our society as a whole, especially in children and young people.”
“Accusations of racism and “white feminism” are often made by those with truly racist and xenophobic views which is very frustrating. On Twitter the assumption that all account holders are white (and middle aged and middle class) is regularly made and idiotic accusations of racism are made against women who are not white and are even well known for working against racism.”
“It is hugely racist! I’ve heard transwomen say that because African American women are accepted as women they should be too! Also comparing their desire to have unlimited access to all female spaces because having women’s only spaces is analogous to the Jim Crow era. Such garbage!”
“All identity politics are inherently in favour of the establishment. Therefore, they are inherently pro-capitalist, pro-men, pro-racism, etc.”
“Conflating Black women with TIMs is appalling. As in “TWAW just like Black women are women.””
“It’s inappropriate, again, changing language or weaponizing language to twist what they actually mean. And the concepts of sex and racism are distinct, gi rhetoric aims to obfuscate those concepts and conflate them into one.”
“It horrified me how many people equate woc with Tims.”
“People actually say trans women are women like black women are women. And they don’t see that as racist and that’s very frightening.”
“I hate how they act like WOC are more masculine just because they don’t fit into white beauty standards. We don’t need to see MOC to know that WOC are women. And white men have always known who the women are when they wanted to rape and impregnate them. It is obvious that adult human females are women regardless of their skin color or facial features, and I cannot believe how people (TRAs) who constantly call us racist do not realize how racist they are being.”
“Tired of the lumping of women of colour with trans identified males e.g. our feminism includes all women, transwomen, black women and disabled women. As though the last two are different categories of women and not truly female.”
“The comparison of transwomen to black women really bothers me. As does the constant insistence that people in the global south didn’t know how babies were made until whitey came along with his colonial ideas. Also the NGOs who work to remove women only spaces in the UK but argue for them in the global south.”
“The comparison of some on social media about the acceptance of trans identified men as women, to Black women is worrying; as though Black women are not in every way women. Black women are adult human females whilst trans identified men are adult human males; the underlying deference to racial tropes of Black women not being fully human and being masculine etc is shocking. It happens in the open too!”
“I don’t know enough about the racism element. I imagine that black people are generally annoyed that their struggle is being used to justify gender ideology.”
“TRA’s bring in a racial component to add to the legitimacy, it’s completely calculated and cynical. The only reason I haven’t had any backlash is because I don’t speak up.”
“Dr Kerekere’s use of language to describe gender diversity did not apply to European/other non Mäori populations.”
“Western ‘ideals’ of womanhood are white centred and based on European culture, so those from other communities are already further from that ideal than white women and culturally have different expectations. As gender is a social construct that varies from culture to culture, forcing people into only one form of that construct is inherently racist.”
“I keep seeing on social media “you allow black women to call themselves women, so…”. I’m appalled. It’s addressed to the public, yet implies that it will only be read by whites, like they don’t accept black people can read/ have internet access! It’s not even a question of “allowing”, as if the world was “white space” and we whites opened the door to aliens. It’s the same as the sexist attitude that the world is “men’s space” and out of generosity they awarded us women any human rights. No. Women, ALL women, are already WOMEN by virtue of being adult human females, no “allowance” required. The racism is shocking. No “one group” owns this world. No-one owns it. We’re all just IN it.”
“Racism is one of gender identities driving forces. Black girls & women are told they look masculine yet are recognised as women & shouldn’t object to white & black men being so recognised. It’s dangerous for black young women, who are saying they’re transgender at an alarming rate. There is forced teaming with #BLM by white people espousing otherwise overtly racist views in one area but claiming an anti-racist identity.”
“I’m appalled by the rhetoric that ‘trans women are women as black women are women’.”
“Black women are seen as more masculine and aggressive in the minds of white people. Now these nutters think they’re trans.”
“It is telling that many black radical feminists get attacked especially online often by white heterosexual men.”
“The false analogy with apartheid is often bandied around yet when we consider the power axis it is absurd. ‘Trans’ is often compared to ‘black’ ahead of ‘woman’ – just an adjective, exhibiting gross racism. Why sex should be transible while race is not is a question gender ideologists cannot answer as it highlights the ridiculous nature of their stance.”
“Comparing transwomen to black women is seriously offensive.”
“This ideology is a new form of colonisation.”
“Every culture knows there’s male and female – “cultural” gender identities historically were used to marginalise gay people by saying they’re not “real” men or women.”
“That racism is sometimes used to point to women who object to gender identity ideology as similarly objectionable as being racist, i.e. rejecting otherness, but women are the oppressed group.”
“I tend to find through my interactions with TRAs that gender ideology seems to go hand in hand with racism. They will use anything to further their cause i.e. Comparing trans rights to the fight for black civil rights and comparing black women to men. They seem to think keeping men out of women’s spaces is the same as race segregation.”
“The equation of blackness with maleness for “women” remains one of the most shocking things I’ve seen in this.”
“The globalists are trying to manipulate people by conflating gender ideology with racism – it’s disgusting and it’s again using people of colour to advance a devious and racist/sexist agenda.”
“I feel that the constant comparison of men who claim to be women with black Women is repulsive and often used. I also see the awful murders of black transvestites from Brazil being used to pretend old white AGP’s are the most vulnerable. I also don’t like how First Nations’s traditional gender non conforming casts are being rewritten as transgender (Hijras, Fafahfine etc). I see the gender identity rhetoric claiming that colonialism invented the sex binary which is also extremely racist. It’s a new form of ‘the good savage’ trope.”
“Gender Ideology is attaching itself to indigenous peoples’ culture to give the appearance of antiquity. Changing my culture to suit this wyt men’s church. I hate it more colonial rape.”
“Even once reliable human rights organisations are trotting racism out to score points on this issue. It’s atrocious.”
“To use a person’s ethnic state/race as a “gotcha” to equate to “gender ideology” is as racist as it can get. Women of colour viewed as equivalent to Men-womanfacing is one of the worst racist takes going. It removes “woman” from them making them seen as a subset of men and dismisses the unique risks, concerns, fears that they have *because they are WOMEN* and which they share with ME, a white woman. The ideology is designed to other women of colour from other women; and from the group of people of colour. It is removing any possible chance to speak out against this ideology lest the speakers are accused of being traitors to their race.”
“GC women are accused of racism to smear them.”
“I’ve noticed that black women tend to be the main target by trans identified men, using the same outdated and untrue ideas that have historically and currently led to black women being abused in healthcare and society as a whole.”
“They seem to compare trans women to black women.”
“Transgender activists have made it acceptable and woke to imply black women are less than human and less than women, and need white men to be accepted as women in order to fix an issue they are primary perpetrators of. Black women who object are racially abused and stalked.”
“The gender ideology is using racism as an ally to justify their rhetoric.”
“Accusations of racism are not only used as some sort of discussion-ending “gotcha”, but the constant comparison of WOC to trans identifying men is so offensive I can’t believe it’s still being bandied about. Some of the most proactive and vocal GC feminists are WOC and that is conveniently ignored by “inclusive” feminists who are quite happy to sell their sisters down the river.”
“There is no comparison between the movement for racial justice and the gender lobby.”
“Being a brown woman, I’ve seen it happen a lot. They start accusing me of white feminism and ignore issues like FGM and period poverty, real issues that still greatly affect women across Asia and Africa.”
“Only that it seems the only time I encounter anything about race regarding gender discussions it is because I am being compared to a racist or a racist for having concerns about the safety of biological women. If “tranphobe/TERF” isn’t enough to silence you, they call you a racist.”
“I abhor how black women are used by TRA’s as examples of subsets of women to justify their existence as transgender women!”
“The gender identity community appropriates Two-Spirit and other traditional indigenous gender roles for its own agenda. Further, many trans activists run off the presumption that Black, Hispanic, and Indigenous women are less of women by virtue of them being WOC.”
“I am concerned about the propagandistic manipulation of ideology by trans rights activists – e.g. Nancy Kelley of Stonewall comparing lesbians who won’t sleep with men as being equivalent to racists or anti-semites.”
“This needs to stop, it’s dangerous ideology.”
“Holding gender critical views is often compared to racism. I do not hate any trans people or anyone at all for being different to myself or holding different views to me. Everyone is entitled to have their opinion on this topic without being accused of any type of phobia.”
“When trans individuals draw faux parallels between criticism of gender ideology and racism they are insulting & colonising the experiences of those black, brown & minoritised ethnicities. This is truly appalling. They also do great disservice to biological women of all origins.”
“Comparing black women to trans women and saying if you accept black women you must accept trans women is one of the most racist things I have ever heard.”
“A Green party MP, an old friend, is lesbian, maori and a trans activist who pretends that pre-colonial maori accepted trans even though her own PhD acknowledged only that homosexual and heterosexual and bisexual lifestyles were accepted. She does not respond to attempts to discuss this except in public articles (rather than personal responses to letters to her). I am pakeha.”
“I am Asian, so I think the racism is more geared to black women and girls.”
“Hate that gender ideology uses black women to try to prove a point. Hate that they focus on black trans lives when it detracts from actual racism.”
“Gender identity ideology is inherently racist as it does not give any acknowledgement to how women (females) from other race, ethnic, religious or other cultural groupings are impacted.”
“Black people and their oppression is being used as an attempted ‘gotcha’ by TRAs, who are completely shameless.”
“It’s not highlighted enough…the awful stance of ‘if a black woman is a woman then so is a man ‘ makes me physically sick, it’s just so…no words!! This should be shown as being a huge part of TRA rhetoric…”
“Equating the history of systematic racism with gender identity issues today discounts the hundreds of years of oppression POC have faced. It’s insulting.”
“It is extremely based in Eurocentrism it is extremely colonial and completely misrepresents people who have been harmed in other cultures through their versions of gender too.”
“The constant use of Black women are women just as Trans women are women. The relegation of black women to a different category of women is a very common device used by TRAS. I think of Sojourner Truth every time this racist argument is used to call GC women racist.”
“GII and racism seem to go together just like misogyny and racism.”
“They appropriate third gender categories found in Indigenous cultures around the world to justify transgenderism, but those third gender categories never denied biological reality. They say that the sex binary originated in white colonialism, as though Indigenous cultures were unable to tell the difference between males and females. This is racist and condescending of Indigenous people and simply untrue.”
“It is divisive. Black women are women. Transwomen are men.”
“Outside the US Supreme Court for a trans ‘rights’ related hearing in 2019, a black and Jewish British lesbian, Linda Bellos, was harassed while trying to speak by a white male in a dress who was screaming ‘Homophobe!’ at her with a megaphone. Bellos had her children taken away in the 1970s BECAUSE she was a lesbian. Curiously, he saved his loudest condemnation for the black lesbian. As British transsexual writer Miranda Yardley has noted, no-one screams ‘Bigot! quite like white men do to women, and especially to lesbians. https://afterellen.com/girl-dick-the-cotton-ceiling-and-the-cultural-war-on-lesbians-girls-and-women/#tW4SJmBW2fT5l3jQ.01”
“It seems very common for men who claim to be women to compare them not being allowed in women’s bathrooms to black women not being allowed in women’s bathrooms. As a group they have infiltrated BLM and made it about themselves. Trans rights activists are an exceptionally racist, homophobic, and misogynistic group.”
“Some people are treating women who don’t want men in their spaces like being racist and doesn’t make any sense and is very different.”
“I’m half Indian half white. I’m brown enough to have been on the receiving end of racism many times in my 43 years. The most privileged people on the face the earth, overfed powerful white man, put on high heels and trampled over the very rights that women before us worked hard and women are still fighting globally. I just can’t believe what is happening. You don’t just ‘migrate’ into an oppressed group. That they compare their own ‘struggles’ to the civil rights movement is downright deceitful or ‘we don’t blame all Muslims for what a few of them do.’ They jump on the tail of ACTUAL violence to cry about someone using their CORRECT pronouns. At first I, as a brown muslim middle aged woman in Terven Isle thought, ‘Black and Indian people won’t join in with this BS Colonialism 2.0’ But no, recruitment drive and look there’s a man in a Sari working in Rape Crisis, talking about how wonderful he feels and how great motherhood is.”
“I have heard people suggest that if black women are included in the category of women, then so should men. That is deeply racist and offensive to black women. I have also been likened, and heard other women be likened, to white supremacists and had our refusal to accept men in women’s spaces compared with Jim Crow laws in America. This implies that men who are claiming to be women and are being asked not to go into women’s spaces are in the same situation as black people who were segregated from white people. This is offensive. Men are the group that has oppressed women historically, so they are the oppressor trying to enter the spaces the oppressed group, women, have fought for to ensure our safety, to protect ourselves form men. Are they suggesting that the white people who enacted the Jim Crow laws did this because white people needed to be safe from black people? This is outrageous and racist beyond belief. Black people under Jim Crow laws were the oppressed group and it was the oppressor, white people, who were denying them access to some spaces. They are comparing men who are demanding access to women’s spaces and who are the oppressor, with black people under Jim Crow laws, who were the oppressed. This is offensive and racist as it dismisses the reality and truth about the oppression of black people under segregation, why they were denied access to some spaces. They were denied access to spaces because they were considered lesser than, whereas women want male free spaces because men oppress women in these spaces. This reversal of the truth is egregious. I have also heard it said that it was white people who invented the “lie” about biological sex being dimorphic, that the idea of there being two sexes was invented by colonisers. How insulting is this to people from countries that were colonised? To suggest that these people had not figured out for themselves that sex was dimorphic. Deeply insulting.”
“The broadly gender critical views of minority ethnic groups are completely ignored.”
“I have never mistaken a black woman for a man and am appalled this is used as an argument.”
“It is INSANELY racist to analogize males to black women.”
“Being same sex attracted is not equivalent to racism.”
“I’m very concerned by the misinterpretation of so-called third genders as progressive, when often they connect with very patriarchal family and social structures.”
“A tool to further divide women.”
“I don’t know enough about this, but stereotyping is really dangerous, and it’s bad enough to have the polarisation of “boy things and girl things”, but when you add in lack of understanding of cultural differences, there’s more potential for harm.”
“I hate that white people say that black women shouldn’t be offended at being told that we look trans.”
“Transgender activists try to create a false narrative about “trans” people in other (global south, minority, Indigenous) cultures.”
“Yes – the charge that ‘GC’ feminists are racist or white supremacist is absurd but it sticks because of polarisation of the debate and especially the alignment of most younger left wing women of colour with gender ideology in the name of ‘minority solidarity’. It also sticks because there just aren’t enough prominent women of colour on our side of the argument, and not enough effort is being made to win over more. I am one but I’m not an activist, just a retired teacher, and I can tell you categorically that the overwhelming majority of Asian people – male or female – do not believe in gender ideology, and even those younger, vocal ones who claim to, do it more out of a vague sense of minority solidarity, and knowing privately that it clashes with many of their religious beliefs. This last group – mostly young, vocal, educated women, are a minority within my community and not at all representative. Again, think VOTES. I’m not suggesting GC feminists target my community the way George Galloway did in the recent Batley & Spen election (!), but there have to be ways of getting through to that silent majority.”
“Gender ideologists often say that transwomen are women just like black women are women, implying that black women are somehow not ‘real’ women like white women are, which is racist and sexist.”
“I find it very telling that gender rhetoric’s definition of “woman”, if not downright circular, consists of stereotypes associated with white western women. Not to mention the notorious “If black women are women, trans women are women” analogy.”
“I met some Muslim women who were very concerned about school guidance.”
“Gender Ideologues state continually that they support BLM, disability rights etc and we are bigoted nazis. I find that view derogatory and untrue. The comment made so often that a “trans woman” i.e. male (usually complete with penis and testes) is another kind of woman just like a black woman or a disabled woman, I find so utterly racist and untrue. It denies BAME women their womanhood and suggests difference which isn’t there, that they are “other” types of women, a sub class if you will, when the reality is we are all women apart from the male interlopers.”
“I have seen the non-acceptance of tans identified males compared to the non acceptance of black women. In a recent House of Lords debate Baroness Chakrabarti talked of gender critical females rejecting ‘migrants’ to our sex, likening us to racists.”
“Chakrabati did it in the Lords the other day – very cleverly equated women’s attitudes to men in their spaces to the attitudes of racists to refugees and migrants. And her a black woman. It is so unforgivable she did this. It feeds racists too by showing the liberal Left establishment as judgemental, manipulative, self righteous lunatics. We will never get rid of Boris even though he is obviously and gleefully destroying this country as long as the Left subscribes to this kind of dishonest shit.”
“When I read the phrase “Black birthing bodies” in an article online, it made my stomach turn. Black women are dehumanized enough; they don’t need the extra abuse of having their womanhood erased for the sake of a few women who erroneously think they are men.”
“It is just used by the TRAs as a smear they throw everything at you, calling you anti Semitic, racist, homophobic and always assuming you’re right wing if you question anything about their ideology or refuse to participate in it.”
“Discourse about gender identity especially from queer identified organizations is deeply racist.”
“Just how TRAs deliberately conflate being a transwoman to being a black woman or a disabled woman as if they view some women as a subset of women. So if we argue that single sex spaces should not include any males regardless of how they id, they argue that’s transphobic in the same way as segregated spaces are racist and it’s hard to argue with that level of dishonesty.”
“I believe it’s racism to ignore gendered societies like Muslim ones and other more religious societies.”
“I despise that one of their arguments is that ‘trans women’ are women ‘just like black women are women.’ Also the union I refuse to join because of its gender ideology capture allows you to self-ID your race.”
“I hate the way the TRA conflate black women as being the same as men.”
“The push on social media is that terfs are racists, and that GC views are rooted in white feminism. This is ridiculous, as GC women like Allison Bailey in the UK and Karen Davies in the show, but tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.”
“The TRAns mob compare racism with gender critical views, which is appalling.”
“I have recently heard the idea that if you don’t swallow the trans ideology then you are racist. I consider this to be bollocks and just another conceptual stick with which to beat their opposition.”
“This is a false narrative made by trans activists purely in an attempt to make GC women societal pariahs.”
“Young black people are being told that discrimination against ‘trans’ is equivalent to racism this is clearly not true.”
“I am in contact with women from the Maori community who are extremely concerned that their culture is being used as a validation of gender and sex.”
“One very racist thing is covert. When white men who normally just stand on women’s side only when they protect women’s rights to “choose” to go into prostitution or lesbian non-conforming women’s and girl’s right to “choose” to trans, and those men are throwing accusations of not being intersectional at actually feminist women. They – the white middle-class men have appropriated intersectionalism from feminist women and accuse us of racism when we speak up for women with things that all women would benefit from.”
“The comparison of women with GC views to racists is a nonsense. The same people saying such things suggest that cultural and racial appropriation is abhorrent, yet they support the appropriation of womanhood by men. Like most pro-gender arguments, it logically fails at the first hurdle.”
“It’s so insulting to the intelligence of black people to insinuate that they didn’t know the difference between men and women until white people showed up to impose their cultural norms.”
“There is a lot to get into here, and you will probably hear this many times over from women of color who are more qualified to comment. I will still list the issues I’m aware of as best I can. I am especially concerned with the impacts of a revisionist anthropology and history is being done to create a cartoon world to suit gender ideology. It is a history where women’s oppression came from white supremacy, rather than predating it by many centuries and actually prefiguring the ideas that would form racism and the white supremacist mindset. This not only is a lie, it’s a lie that disregards a lot of women of color’s unique history of being abused and cuts off interest in exploring sexism before colonialism, and its legacy around the world. It is basically an anti-intersectional impulse to suit a narrative of gender identity as sacrosanct and “biological sex” or the two gender roles (one assigned to female, the other to male, people) as nothing more than a western/white construct. There’s just a little bit to this – each culture has its interpretation of the sexes, and the colonial cultures did spread their specific interpretations, no doubt. But the preexisting interpretations were not sex blind at all and all the fabricating some people do to pretend otherwise ends up sounding pretty racist. Also completely lies about the purpose and effects of “third” sex/gender/roles in a wide range of cultures. Papering over a complicated and mixed picture (usually involving sexism and homophobia) in a way that really does seem like a “noble savage” story at worst, and just misleading at best. The way just recognizing primary and secondary sex characteristics, within and across ethnic groupings, is conflated with race science is wrong and confuses the issue of what race science actually is, and why it’s both incorrect and morally wrong/hurtful, which is itself useful to white supremacy. Yes it can be complicated to separate cultural attitudes about ideals for men and women from actual patterns in secondary sex characteristics in particular, and yes it can be difficult to discuss it in a respectful way… but it’s very possible. And primary characteristics are just clearly nothing to do with perceptions and race or ethnicity. Which is partly why I focus on talking about those when defining the “female human” part of “adult human female” and always take care to note the secondary patterns have a much wider range. Women generally don’t have as much facial hair as men, especially comparing with men and women of the same general ethnic background, but it varies! Not just with DSDs but well beyond that. So that’s not part of the definition, but it is a real pattern. Meanwhile a story of genes, genetic expression, gonads, and genitalia very much can be in the definition of the sexes in humans. I think the only time race would come into that are those rare pockets of high DSD occurrence in certain isolated ethnic groups and what that means for how they are racialized/treated racially by outsiders. Another issue is directly comparing women of color to trans women in particular is also out of line. One are male people being recognized as not female, and having the specific biology explaining that discussed, the other are female people being denied personhood, let alone womanhood in specific, and having every little average physical difference from white women scrutinized. None of those differences highlighted in women of color ever include having (or ever having had) testes or a penis.”
“I think the fact that people compare men who identify as women, to black women, is incredibly racist and am astonished that this rhetoric is used so often.”
“GI is white male supremacy.”
“I don’t like it when people say dehumanising things about black women, specifically that ‘trans women are women just like black women are women.’”
“I think it is disgraceful how TRAs compare themselves to black women and suggest that we must include men who identify as women in our spaces because we include black women. That is terrible racism. We include all women, no matter their colour, disability, size etc. because they are women! It annoys me too that TRAs try to equate our right for single-sex spaces with racial separatism/apartheid. I am also upset by Nancy Kelly/Stonewall opinion that to fight for women’s single-sex spaces is equivalent to being a Nazi.”
“I have had same rhetoric thrown at me because I am a disabled woman. It is usually if women of colour or disabled women are women then transwomen are women.”
“BAME communities in Wales have not been asked to comment on the LGBTQ+ Plan even though it will have a huge impact on this community.”
“The conflation of “trans women” (men) with black women (women) is disgustingly racist.”
“I can’t believe how often pro-trans people say something to the effect of “if Black women are women, then trans [male] women are surely women” and NO ONE SEEMS TO NOTICE THE DISGUSTING RACISM.”
“I’m white, so I’m not the best person to ask about this, but what I see a lot is the assertion that if black women are women then so are ‘trans women’, that is if black women are women then men can be women too. Which strikes me as very racist. And of course the claims about third gender cultures and that biological sex is colonialist somehow, which is an argument someone has actually brought to me in person.”
“The racism is off the charts! I’ve read more trans believers make comments about masculine Black women than I care to hear. Remember when they came after Michelle Obama and called her an animal and other awful descriptions? This is from that sick, sick playbook.”
“Black women are women as they are female. Transwomen are a subset of men not of women.”
“It is being used to push a fascist label on women who come from all walks of life and political thinking.”
“I am gender critical and also not white!”
“Hypocrisy of the highest order. Exporting this ideology is not seen as proselytising, missionary, colonial indoctrination? Really? This combined with appropriating other cultures notions on gender is frequently done both in ignorance but also aggressively. Real, biological sex impacts greatly on how women & girls are treated globally. Denying sex denies this. Logically we cannot criticise FGM or breast ironing if we endorse the mutilation of teens in the west. While comparing trans rights to civil rights struggle in the US or even the UK is as absurd as it is offensive. The logical contradictions in trans ideology alone reveal that.”
“In my country, transphobia is considered the same thing as racism, and thus I am threatened with at least 2 years in prison for their suspicions of me.”
“The comparison of women of colour to males is always extremely shocking but I’ve witnessed it a great deal by trans activists. It always boils down to the racist assertion that if black women are considered women so should males, and of course the moment a black woman voices gender critical thoughts she often faces incredibly racist remarks.”
“I feel like gender ideology only ever really talks about racism in relation to themselves. As in “black trans women” or “black trans life matter” or they use specifically black women as a shield for themselves (as an example, when gender critical women point out that any trans-identified male is a man/male, they often take out black women and their allegedly “masculine features”.) Outside of these points, they are happy to take away the spotlight from anyone of any group. I also feel like that especially women are made to stay away from any kind of radical feminist/ gender critical groups/people by calling this kind of feminism “white feminism”, which is also throwing anyone outside of North America and Europe under the bus in their fight for female liberation.”
“It vexes and offends me. I’m a black woman, so it’s personal. I find it foul to be compared to a man in terms of my existence. Men have always known we are women for one thing. The comparison of no segregation to same-sex toilets is at best ridiculous, at worst it shows a total lack of understanding of the realities of life under segregation laws.”
“It’s ridiculous and they also destroy the real meaning of racism.”
“I only see it very rarely. I am far more concerned about the ableism and intersexism.”
“Comparing trans women to Black women is extremely upsetting to me.”
“I think that it is very telling that trans rights activists (for a lack of a better word) claim that if black women are women, men are women, too.”
“Genderists claim that black women being women is proof that men can be women which absolutely tells you everything you need to know about how they view black women.”
“In Germany they are using Hitler and the Holocaust to describe TERF.”
“Appropriating the oppression of others to justify rhetoric and to cover the primarily affluent white majority of this movement is abhorrent.”
“Misrepresenting identities that don’t belong to them (e.g. hijra, two-spirit) to claim non-binary identities have always existed (when in reality most of these roles are more akin to “gay man” or “infertile man”). And I’ve seen a lot of them say racist, dehumanizing things about Women of Color (especially black women) in their justification for why they think males can be women.”
“Where I live it’s mainly a bunch of well off white men who declare themselves oppressed, often saying they are the equivalent of Black people because they face so much discrimination, which is a total fabrication. Also, they appropriate the oppression that black men who identify as women face, especially in poorer countries, Brazil for instance, as their own.”
“TRAs claim that lesbians who don’t want a penis are the same as saying we exclude black women. Not wanting penis is sexual orientation, excluding black women would be racist. They claim it’s the same while it’s not.”
“I am called all manner of anti Semitic slurs, people invoke the holocaust to justify this lunacy.”
“I think it would be nice if genderists stopped implying that black women aren’t women. Or that women with DSDs aren’t women, for that matter.”
“I find the comparisons of lesbians who only want to sleep with women, as racists, to be highly offensive. I find the comparisons of people like me who KNOW (not “believe”) that sex is real, with anti-Semites, to be highly offensive.”
“I have seen and heard people argue that men are a subset of women in the same way that women of African descent are a subset of women. I have seen and heard people argue that biological reality is a colonial invention used to oppress native peoples. I wonder, in such so-called “progressive” circles, why these racist arguments fly. And I cannot fathom what it must be like for women of color to be dehumanized yet again in this absurd way.”
“Only so much as when people try to conflate black women with trans women, which is ludicrous as one group is female and the other male.”
“It is an ugly truth that society is more interested in elevating white men who mimic glamorous white women over black women who face so many brutal barriers every day of their lives.”
“The comparison of women only space to racial segregation is very damaging.”
“I’m also concerned about the tendency to equate gender critical beliefs with racism by claiming that sex-specific spaces are the same as apartheid.”
“I regularly see white trans activists taking every opportunity to throw POC under the bus and victimize themselves. I’ve seen them say “it doesn’t matter if trans women don’t pass well, a lot of women of color look masculine and they’re still seen as women”. I have seen countless trans people and their allies going on about how transphobia is comparable to racism. I have seen trans activists call black radical feminists “dogs” and “white supremacist bootlickers” and throw around racial slurs. I have seen them claim that radical feminism and being gender critical is a white ideology despite the overwhelming number of POC who are gender critical.”
“I have a visceral reaction to gender identity advocates who use “noble savage” style rhetoric to push their views (i.e. “before the white man came all PeeOhCees – yes all of them and they are all the same – lived in harmony with nonbinary and trans genders” type of thing). It’s not only racist but misogynistic and totally erases the oppression that women of color have historically faced within our own cultures.”
“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come across people comparing black women to males, calling black women masculine, or saying if trans women aren’t women then neither are black women in support of “trans rights”.”
“They always say “black women are women” to justify “trans women are women”.”
“They’re logic is that black women are masculine and as such are treated poorly. So until men are seen as feminine, black women won’t be seen as feminine. Because black women are pretty much men. That is their logic and it’s disgusting.”
“I’ve often witnessed the use of black women as evidence that trans women are women. On the premise that black women have historically not fitted expectations of western femininity and have been demonized for that. And how that means women should include black women, and trans women get lumped in. Or the use of the high rates of black trans women experiencing violence (vs. white trans women remaining privileged) and using those rates (likely from racism and/or dangerous environments) as evidence that trans women as a whole are the most oppressed.”
“The TRAs use Black people as a tool to argue that men can be women. It’s incredibly racist and offensive.”
“The presence of MTF at my LGBTQ group meetings is akin to Black Face individuals sitting across from a Person of Color.”
“I am tired of white trans males assuming they can speak for any Black person or person of color, and trying to link gender critical views with racism. They use Black people as a human shield.”
“I’m not sure what this refers to. But the indifference to the safety and wellbeing of poor women, disproportionately women of color, in prisons, homeless and DV shelters is shocking and racist as well as sexist.”
“There’s two things that are particularly racist that I see often: saying that if black women are women so are trans women and instrumentalizing people from the third world to support their gender identity (i.e., learning a bunch of ‘identities’ like two spirit and muxes and claiming these are third genders! just like nb people! when it’s definitely not like that)”
“Black women are not comparable to men.”
“I am extremely concerned that it is often repeated that transwomen are women like black women are women. I find this fundamentally racist to black women.”
“There seems to be a great deal of denial regarding the fates of women around the world and especially in third world countries because it doesn’t agree with gender rhetoric.”
“As an Asian women from CA I am fed up listening to westerns using us and lying about my and close nations and cultures not knowing the difference between sexes, as if some white dude came and taught us about how babies are made. It’s racist and west is drowning in racism masked as tolerance.”
“It is meme-worthy by now, but white men who posture as women often bring up this stunning racist “example” to bolster their being accepted as women: “if black women are women, trans MTF are women.” That is such clear racist delusion, and dismissal of black women.”
“Gender ideology presents itself as a civil rights issue. It is not. It asks for extra “luxury rights” for the trans-identified – to be able to enter spaces they don’t belong in, to try to CONTROL & compel by law how they are spoken of. They use racism as comparable to trans-phobia, but it’s not the same. Women of different races pose little threat to one another in bathrooms, prisons, retreats, sports, etc. MEN – however they identify – DO!”
“The way the genderists talk about black women is sickening.”
“It seems to me that if one accepts transgenderism, to be consistent one must accept transracialism as well. To my mind, transracialism is bogus, offensive, and predicated on racist tropes but it is no different in that respect to transgenderism. If anything, racial categories more blurred and historically contingent than the sexes male and female. So transracialism, while being wholly indefensible, is nevertheless a MORE coherent concept than transgenderism (since the sex binary is based squarely in anatomy and is therefore easily determined in each individual). Where transgenderism leads, transracialism (and trans ableism) must follow and that is anathema to my way of thinking.”
“I can’t believe this has become so normalized, actually. I have to remind the people around me as a brown woman I am not differently sexed than white women.”
“They use black people as a shield.”
“Tras regularly use the argument that transwomen (not a term I use incidentally) are a sub section of women JUST LIKE Black women are!!! Appallingly racist argument.”
“It just shows how horrible these people and this ideology is, that they dare to compare black women to men. Compare fetishist’s “rights” to women’s spaces to black people’s rights.”
“I am aware that the GC view is being sort of maligned as a “Karen” view which imo is a slur against white women. Intersectionality is maligning the GC view as a ‘privileged white woman’ issue and it’s so misogynistic it’s unreal. It’s a way to dismiss women’s concerns.”
“It seems that black “transwomen” are forefronted by a movement run by middle class, middle aged white men to gain oppression points. This does nothing to end racism and puts a false face on this very white led mov’t. Also calling feminism white feminism denies the role of black women many of whom are gender critical and clear and vocal on the subject.”
“I think the gender identity rhetoric appropriates the civil rights movement against racism (in the US) when they constantly try to say that “trans women are women just like black women are women, black women have been excluded from ‘woman’ in the past and we trans women are excluded from it now, only worse.” This argument itself is racist. Black women are actually female, and this trans community entire argument relies on an idea of “woman” as a specifically fetishized, delicate objectified feminine being “of beauty” up on the pedestal of chivalry and somehow “deserving of protection” and “never having to work.” Lower class women of all ethnic backgrounds were excluded from that, never mind that this “coveted” position itself is actually a prison, if the man can throw you away on a whim. In the US right now in 2021, if you are gender critical you will be called racist, because gender critical views are “white feminism,” ironically it doesn’t even matter if you’re white, black women are called “internally racist” for this as well! And of course right now being “racist” is the kiss of death socially in any “progressive” circles, so women are extra afraid to speak out. It’s silencing.”
“I am concerned that the hypocrisy that calls out non-racial minorities for Cultural appropriation yet remains silent on male colonizing Womanhood and Female only spaces.”
“Trans rights is a peculiarly luxury concept… to see their attempts to align gc views with colonial/racist/ far right views is so frustrating.”
“As an anti-racist I’ve seen the effects of intersectional politics, specifically around gender identity theory, used as a moral purity test to divide anti-racist movements.”
“I see a lot of trans/non binary identifying people as middle class/ privileged white people who are presenting as ‘oppressed’ or marginalised. I’ve seen a lot of comparisons on social media about ‘supporting those most oppressed’ and seeing a lot of narrative about people of colour using pronouns, being ‘allies’ to trans people etc. I think there are definitely racist elements to the gender identity rhetoric but it’s used to white man’s advantage. Secondly, there is outrage when there is any mention of people who identify as transracial, but this is not the case when men identify as women.”
“The transcult is using racism as a form of misogyny.”
“I dislike the way black women are frequently compared to trans women, it implies that white women are the default ‘cis woman’ and that one’s skin colour in on par with being a different sex.”
“I haven’t noticed this but I am not a POC so may have less opportunity to notice it. On another note, I do not believe that it is constructive to speak of ‘racism’ against white people. ‘White feminism’ used in the derogatory sense is a phrase which may betray prejudice – often used by self-serving white people as a way of ingratiating themselves – but I would not think of it as racism and would personally not like this way of thinking to become part of mainstream gender-critical thought.”
“TRAs compare “trans women” to “Black women” all the time as if they are just another category of woman. That is in fact, comparing males to black women which is wholly offensive and racist. Gender critical people and feminists are often compared to nazis or racists, which is another way that TRAs make a mockery of the concept of racism, purposing it for their own ends whilst trivialising it and devaluing its meaning.”
“Comparing Black women to trans identified males is something I find deeply insulting.”
“As an autistic mixed race women, I’m not a pawn for men to use to justify their insertion into women’s issues.”
“I noticed that the race shields get thrown a lot. I am mixed raced and everything about gender ideology is being compared to racism which angers me so much.”
“I’ve seen it repeatedly said if we can share spaces with black women we can share them with men. Gender ideology is steeped in racism, sexism and homophobia.”
“It’s worrying how many supporters of gender identity politics think it’s acceptable to compare black women and trans identified males. “If black women are women then trans women are women” etc.”
“I am appalled that Black women are frequently cited alongside men who identify as women as an example of oppression. It is co-opting the experience of real racism to make an irrelevant and unrelated comparison. It unashamedly conflates racism with accusations of transphobia.”
“The notion of racism and transphobia are seemingly aligned. I strongly feel insulted by a man who assumes he can put on clothes that are considered feminine and immediately expect to be accepted by everyone especially the women he seeks to emulate, much as black people felt insulted by white people who wore/wear ‘blackface’ makeup. Somehow the recent attitudes being promoted are that anyone can seemingly take up the mantle of being a black person while actually being white/Asian etc. This is diminishing the stigmatisation of people who are seen to mock those they wish to mimic, thus eroding the strong understanding amongst people generally that to behave in such a way is clearly belittling and derogatory to the point of harassment. This further enables organisations such as Stonewall to argue that social attitudes have changed to the extent that the Equalities Act (2010) requires to be rewritten in favour of what many people would agree would be far too permissive and open to people being abusive to people of all the characteristics named in the EqA2010 act.”
“It’s such a hypocritical position. I don’t understand how they get away with it. Has the world gone mad and stupid.”
“I have never known a more racist ideology. We battle the tropes and the use of stereotypes of Black Women being used as human shields to validate male feelings. It is highly offensive and racist to say Black Women are like trans identified males, yet this is not seen as hate crime, these views are not removed by twitter. It is pure racism and we will not suffer it.”
“The trans movement are using black people especially black women as a comparison to their own lived experiences. This is highly offensive and racist. Black people suffer marginalisation and oppression. Trans people are free to live their lives how they want.”
“Women’s sex segregated spaces were designed for safety and privacy and there is no similarity between this and race segregation which is racist and harmful to developing understanding between people of different cultural backgrounds.”
“That Nancy Kelly likened lesbians to racists for wanting to exclude men from their dating pool / sexual choices is abhorrent. And illogical.”
“It disturbs me that black people’s struggles are being used to weaponize sentiment against white women. It’s textbook use of setting the pawns against each other.”
“I’m black and I’m tired of TRAs comparing transwomen to black women.”
“Overwhelmingly white middle class mainly males trying to equate black women (as a different type of women to the white default) with men is hugely insulting to black women.”
“Even bringing up racial segregation as a parallel to women needing/wanting single sex spaces is inherently racist in itself. Black women are not a subset of women. Also, women as a whole do not ‘oppress’ anyone as a group.”
“Black women seem to have the greatest hatred directed at them. They are othered. It’s horrible to see.”
“The equating of black women with transwomen, as comparable categories of “women”, is deeply racist. I also find the comparison of gender ideology to civil rights movements extremely condescending and false.”
“The rhetoric that if black women are women then men can be women is extremely racist and demeans black women in every way.”
“False pairing of racism and ‘transphobia’. Use of terms like ‘white feminist’.”
“It is peculiar how gender identity activists will insist that women have no right to look out for other women without including trans women and if we do not we are called not only transphobic but racist and anti-Semitic. It’s unhinged.”
“Black women are women. Men are not. These two should never be compared.”
“I’m Jewish and when I first started down this path I was called a Nazi by other Jews. I couldn’t believe it. Now it’s white noise and I find that just as upsetting.”
“I have been called racial slurs because I am a gender critical black woman.”
“The murders of trans identifying men in South America is being used by white middle-class autogynephiliacs to use these statistics to support the claim that trans identifying people are most at risk of murder in the UK. This is not true. Gender identity uses white middle-class women as the enemy (heteronormative identities). In feminism intersectionality means including black, disabled and working class women in the conversation about feminism. It is a term coined by black working class women. Gender Identity theory takes this concept to include trans identifying men as women under the guise of ‘inclusivity’ and intersectionality. The gender identity rhetoric ignores the reality of being a woman or girl in countries outside of the western world. So issues such as forced marriage, FGM, sex trafficking, menstruation huts, lack of access to education or contraception are ‘gender’ problems. They deny the reality of sex based oppression for women the world over. It is ok for an affluent white male to identify into the oppressed class (woman) but it is impossible for a girl in Afghanistan to identify out of her oppression and go to school, because she is now a boy. I am very angry that for Muslim women (for example) women only spaces are very important, but trans identifying males don’t care about this, their feelings are more important. How can a white middle class man believe he is more oppressed that a dark skinned woman?”
“Trans women being compared to black women is extremely racist. (Like “you want to exclude trans women, that’s exactly the same thing they used to do to black women”.) Black women are female, and excluding them from female-only spaces because of their skin colour would be racist. Trans women, however, are male, and excluding them from female-only spaces is basic safeguarding of women and girls.”
“Only that it is madness. Both the ‘black women are women’ as if anyone thought they weren’t (which only a racist would think). And the ‘2nd wave was white feminism’ thereby erasing the huge contribution of black feminists to the 2nd wave.”
“I think they use race because it has become weaponised, not in order to help people who may experience racism, but as a way to shut down debate.”
“They consider black women as a subclass of women, and compare them with those so called “trans women”.”
“Black women are routinely “othered” by TRA rhetoric that posits them as in a similar relation to the category “women” as men in dresses. It’s so fucking offensive.”
“The constant reference to trans women being women because black women are women is despicable. I have never heard another women be racist in this way.”
“If you’re so keen to make assumptions like ‘If Black women are women then trans women are women indeed’, you should explain why transgender is valid but not transracial.”
“I have seen enough abuse on social media to see how common it is for white trans-identified males to hide behind a “female identity” to use racist language to insult people of color, in addition to the staggering and rampant sexism.”
“TRA’s often say ‘ALL women, including black women, cis women and transwomen’ as if being black is a sort of subset of womanhood.”
“It’s offensively racist to claim that women of colour are the same as males who identify as females. I have also noticed many attempts to smear women as racist for trying to protect female only spaces.”
“Yes, discrimination based on race is real and historical and black people can’t suddenly change race when things don’t suit them, unlike white men who identify as women/an oppressed minority, when in fact without their privileged status the trans movement would have never gained such traction.”
“Saying that transwomen are women is the same as saying black women are women, is othering women of colour and deeply racist. All women are women and no man is a woman, however he identifies.”
“Although a lot of the time the people speaking for gender ideology are often not consistent with their answers sometimes with circular answers but I have noticed a theme where they claim if women do not welcome males into their sex class it is akin to racism and then go on to imply that black women are the same as transwomen in this regard which is quite clearly very racist. Quite often I’ve noticed that they are very derogatory towards women of colour, they then claim it is only white women who are concerned with their sex based rights which is absolute rubbish, knowing personally women of all ages, all races, all nationalities, diverse social and economic status who are collectively frightened about the erosion of our safe spaces.”
“I’m tired of being told I’m like a segregationist if I insist on woman-only spaces.”
“I often see the comment along the lines of “trans women are women, just like black women are women.” Comparing black women to men dressing as women is racist. Black women ARE women, regardless of their race and it is incredibly racist to suggest otherwise. They are not a “sub-group” within the group of women. There is also a history of black women being stereotyped as “masculine” – which is a racist trope that those types of comments feed into.”
“Racism is unchecked in gender identity rhetoric and accusations made of feminists that our positions are racist are more likely to reveal racism on the part of the accuser.”
“I keep a low profile because it is so unsafe for me to be open about my gender critical views as a black woman. I don’t want these cretins spitting at me outside conferences or meetings. I have to do my resistance at a distance. It’s just not safe for me. Being very visible means that they will target and come for me first because I do stand out as the sole or one of two black women in the group.”
“I have seen far too many tweets which compare (trans) women as a prefix to (black) women or which draw parallels between the exclusion of black women from white women only spaces to the exclusion of trans identifying males from women only spaces.”
“It is racist to change language in maternity services so mothers for whom English is a second language cannot understand, women are women, mothers are mothers, breast feeding is breast feeding.”
“I’ve been called a racist homophobe by straight white men (which my gay Asian housemate found utterly bemusing).”
“False equivalence is thrown around and there is a huge amount of overt racism in this cult. Nobody ever questions their right to hold their racist views because everything goes through the censorship prism of ‘transphobia’.”
“Being compared to racists is very insulting, inaccurate and hurtful. It is also illogical, since gender ideologists say ‘I am who I say I am’ but only around sex, ‘gender’ and sexuality – absolutely not if it’s about race or ethnicity. If a man puts on lipstick and says he’s a woman we are required to accept it, but if a white person puts on ‘blackface’ and says they are Black we all reject it. Of course Black people should define Blackness and racism and be able to discuss/meet autonomously to define, plan and address their oppression. So should women.”
“It is foul. The continued equating black women to (male) trans woman is the kind of racism that not even my former BNP supporting brother would come out with.”
“Cynical use of black people’s issues to further the interests of the trans lobbyists.”
“I don’t appreciate the way trans people try to compare societal perception of them with racism.”
“Have also experienced being called racist (I’m white) because of GC views.”
The likening of black women to trans women drives me crazy. The racism is so obvious and “deeply hurtful.”
“On the one hand, I’m concerned with the fact that being labelled a terf is already seen as being practically a Nazi (we’re all funded by the Alt Right apparently as is constantly cited) and then on the other you have Nancy Kelly or Ash Sarker immediately making the direct and utterly spurious comparison between gender critical views and anti semitism and racism. If I was forthright and honest in my gender critical views on social media, I have no doubt I would be very quickly called a Nazi. I’m Jewish.”
“The continued and sustained comparison between the prefix black and trans is hugely sexist, racialised and derogatory toward women of colour. Comparing black to what is essentially white men is deeply racist and the GC community needs to do more to include and defend minoritised women.”
“The constant “othering” of black women to justify men “also being women” sickens me.”
“They infer derogatory themes in relation to black women.”
“They constantly compare black women to men, saying things like “transwomen are women just like black women are women”, and comparing someone not wanting a sexual relationship with a trans person to someone not wanting a sexual relationship with a black person.”
“Protestors at a woman’s place meeting told a black woman walking in that her hair was “minging” and she needed a weave. It’s endless.”
“To compare lesbians who are same sex attracted to racists is abhorrent. It is an attempt to silence.”
“The use of women of colour to justify the trans argument is abhorrent.”
“Through gaslighting and other narcissistic (DARVO) tactics, racialised people, particularly women of colour, have been accused of bigotry and “white privilege”, in an attempt to suppress their reasonable criticisms to gender ideology. Even though gender identity has highjacked the racism card to play victim, and misconstrue intersectionality and inclusion, the tra are the main group that is targeting and damaging those already racialised and marginalised.”
“It is conflating two arguments and making people feel too frightened to speak.”
“”Yes, saying “”transwomen are women, like black women are women”” is racist. I shouldn’t have to be banned from social media for noticing that and calling it out.”
“Many gender identitarians have taken on the language of black civil rights campaigns to explain their experience of social stigma or oppression. They also argue that GC people are racist because our opposition to Self ID “kills black trans people”.”
“The notion that ‘Black women’ are in a similar category to those men who describe themselves as trans is deeply racist and misogynist.”
“Comparing Black Women with Trans women is abhorrent racism and I can’t believe it comes up so much.”
“It is so contemptuous of what black and Asian people have to put up with to be told by white middle class men their feelings and identity are worth more. The whole stance is…words escape me.”
“Saying that transwomen are women, as black women are women is racist.”
“I see TRAs use arguments about single-sex spaces by saying things like, “so you wouldn’t allow black women and transwomen into single sex changing rooms?”. This is racist.”
“It’s used by them to marginalise those of us that are WOC and their identity used a shield for their racism.”
“The comparison between trans women and black women is made a lot in debate and is clearly racist yet I am accused of being transphobic for highlighting it.”
“Voices of WOC being silenced.”
“The types who shout “bigot” and “TERF” appear to be hateful people who are using gender ideology as a shield/pass to be misogynistic and woke whilst ironically also being racist, e.g. when they say black women are also women as if they somehow aren’t?! It’s racist. The TRAs have also infiltrated the BLM movement to divert attention away from BLM concerns and they have appropriated terms such as “privilege”.”
“When people write/promote “ALL WOMEN”, they include trans AND black women; black women ARE women – TIMs are NOT women! It is SO insulting to state that black women are not default, and are a subset of women.”
“The rhetoric often positions black women as another type of woman. Pure racism.”
“The two have been linked in an inexplicable way. Being a white “cis” woman (as other define me) EVERYTHING I and other say about gender turns us “racist”. I still haven’t figured out that logic leap, really…”
“I see many trans activists saying things like “If black women can be considered women then so can trans women” and comparing males not being allowed in female toilets to segregation.”
“The current gender identity rhetoric negates sex or race based oppression as a valid category and I have witnessed racist rhetoric towards black colleagues of mine when they have challenged trans rights activists about their views.”
“Gender Ideology is being led by white middle class men. Of course race comes into it!”
“It seems that TRA is a white male centred ideology and many use the argument that if we accept black women as women we should accept men as women. This is both racist and misogynistic.”
“It’s a can of worms. I have often thought that identity politics and the way that intersectionality has been adopted and abused by genderists amounts to a form of protection for left wing racists.”
“As a POC and a woman who lived through gender dysphoria I’ve got into some real bad situations without inciting anyone of them, just by existing. Suddenly a white male can assault me verbally of being a cis, racist and misogynist because he identifies as a woman. Incredible. And I’m concerned about the life of my children because of this.”
“There is so little space for Black/Asian women and women of colour, and in particular those who are lesbian and the rhetoric further limits women’s sense of self and choice.”
“I disagree with forced teaming and believe it to be a deliberate tactic designed to silence debate and demonise others.”
“The conflation of the two issues by TRAs is infuriating.”
“White trans activists accuse gender critical women of being racists – as if only white women are critical! Women of all origins, ages and colors share my concerns.”
“It is utterly disgraceful that Black women are spoken of as if a subset of “women” meaning they are not the norm, and are somehow equivalent to transwomen.”
“Gender ideology is at odds with the lived experience of women in so-called developing economies. Infanticide and forced abortion of female foetuses has skewed the male/female birth ratio in India. In Africa- and the UK – FGM still happens to girls of colour. All of this is down to being female. Gender ideology prioritises white male feelings over women’s lives.”
“Something I have noticed in the rhetoric is the exploitation of the ‘black trans woman’ trope. I think this is a manipulative way for the TRAs to gain support for the idea that they are amongst the most marginalised and vulnerable group in society.”
“It is deplorable that people pushing gender ideology co-opt the language of civil rights movements and misrepresent the proportion of people of colour in their ranks.”
“Misogyny takes many forms and seems to be worse for black and Asian women.”
“I feel it is very belittling to women of different racial heritage when I see the ‘just as much a woman as a black woman etc’ trope.”
“I really am sick of seeing ‘Black women are women, which means trans women are women’ – as if Black is a subset of woman in the first place, and if a Black person can be a woman, so can a man? It’s disgusting.”
“I’m constantly seeing people comparing being trans to being black in extremely racist manner. As in “If you don’t think trans women are women you must not think black women are real women either!””
“I’m ethnically Iroquois and I’ve never faced the degree of naked anti indigenous racism as I have interpersonally from trans activists seeking to use my cultural belonging against my politics.”
“It hasn’t stood out to me, but I’m white, so maybe my white privilege is blinding me. It’s clear that privileged white males are the ones screaming loudest about how they are the most “discriminated against”.”
“No I don’t feel qualified but black gender critical friends have had horrible abuse in person.”
“Trans activists focus on black trans women to stir up support and hatred of gender critical women. They also try to divide women by labelling gender critical women as privileged white women to try to create divisions among women.”
“I have seen references to being able to ‘identify as black or disabled’, if this is what this question refers to. I think this is appalling.”
“The constant comparison of TW = black women is horrendously racist. No woman = TW. Black women ARE women by virtue of being female. That fact does NOT mean that TWAW.”
“It’s a type of gaslighting that tries to catapult gender identity ideology as politically valid.”
“It’s a way to shut down debate. It’s clumsy and offensive.”
“Suggesting black women are likely to be mistaken for men or trans is an adjective, like black, when talking about women – unacceptable.”
“They keep saying a male is a woman just like a black woman is a woman. That is incredibly insulting and racist! Most women on the planet aren’t white. We are all female.”
“”Black birthing bodies”?”
“The trans ideology is almost all about straight white men and their desires- frankly I don’t think any of them care about racism except to co-opt it to give more gloss to their rhetoric.”
“A labour MP has endorsed a union statement who say they support self identifying as black.”
“The nonsense trotted out that black women are women in the same way that transwomen are women is diabolical and racist.”
“I don’t know enough to comment really, but straight white men identifying their way into oppressed groups spaces turns my stomach. The term black birthing bodies was especially offensive due to slaves being forced to birth babies repeatedly by white slave owners. I also think taking away women’s right to use our language to describe our experience will only lead to other marginalised groups language being taken from them in the same way. It’s a slippery slope.”
“I regularly see the comment that ‘trans women are just another type of women, like black women or ‘cis’ women or disabled women’. It is grossly racist to suggest that a woman who is BAME is the same as a man declaring himself to be a woman. A woman is defined by her biological reality, her female body and XX chromosomes observed and recorded at birth or even before.”
“I am particularly angered by statements that seek to present ‘trans women’ as a variant of women, and in that respect liken them to ‘Black women’, ‘Muslim women’ etc.”
“When arguments are made that a black woman is different to a white woman who is different to a transwoman…. Implies that back women are different to white women. We are not – we’re the same. It is the transwomen who are different and they are othering black women (this is written this way around as this is the how the arguments are outlined). Arguments about how oppressed transwoman are, most likely to be murdered etc, are based on the transwoman sex workers of colour in the states/Brazil. They are appropriating those experiences while doing nothing to help them, for their own benefit, to claim that they, a middle class, middle aged white male are more oppressed than a working class, black woman who has faced sexism and racism her whole life.”
“I find the TRAs attempts to force team with people of ethnic minority groups offensive.”
“It’s always white middle class men who are pushing their way into women’s things.”
“The whole gender rhetoric is being pushed by predominantly white middle class males, and when a university says that anyone can identify into a colour or race, they are being racist. Ethnicity, colour, sex, age, and disability are all beyond our control and cannot be “identified” into. It’s arrant nonsense.”
“I’m a black woman and it’s incredibly offensive when I’m told I’m a man because I believe Transwomen are males.”
“Comparing black women to men. Trying to change Latino into something else, like LatinX or Latine.”
“”Black women are women just as trans women are women”, grr, makes me want to hurl, how are they allowed to say this!”
“It’s a serious problem that’s often overlooked.”
“My niece I mentioned before is also biracial. She is black on one side and looks it, and the idea that black women are being presented as “other,” while white women are the default, is troubling to say the least.”
“I hate the way they argue that black woman are men it pisses me off so much.”
“Women are women whatever their colour/race.”
“Genderists have borrowed from critical social justice adherents in viewing western society as fundamentally “transphobic”. They spread the lie that sex didn’t exist until those nasty westerners came along and forced indigenous populations to separate into “men” and “women”. Not only is it historical revisionism, but it’s also a form of cultural imperialism. They also have a weird obsession with black trans women. They never mention black trans men for some reason.”
“The notion that “transwomen are women in the same way that black women are women” makes me unspeakably angry.”
“It’s a conform or else mentality, using the history of marginalised races to twist a narrative.”
“I’m sickened by how black women are equated to transwomen as if black women are somehow a subset of woman.”
“Girls of color are statistically less likely to attend college. But sports scholarships have been an important way for girls of color to access higher education. Those scholarships are being imperilled by male access girls’ sports.”
“I have seen the awfulness of black women being compared to trans identified males in the argument that women come in various shapes and sizes and degrees of masculinity. I don’t agree with the idea of “white women feminism” though, and it can be difficult to join together across racial lines because of identity politics becoming paramount above all else.”
“Trans identifying males are often compared to black females in these debates. I find the false equivalence very disturbing. They imply black women are a sub set of women which of course they are not.”
“The link to racism is insane and used to try to terrify people into silence. It is abhorrent, in every way.”
“The fo (sic) is on self identification being embedded as an enabler to define gender then risk other protected characteristics being self identified, including race, disabilities and age. This negates the protections provided for in the Equality Act for defined protected characteristics if they are open to those who say they apply to them and people are fearful of challenging this assertion.”
“The comparison of black women to trans women (men) is a well used racist trope in TRA propaganda. While simultaneously saying that Self ID as a woman is fine but self ID for race is not. It makes no logical sense – how can all these institutions be buying into this?”
“I don’t understand why people who believe in gender identity think that those who don’t have that belief accuse them of not thinking black women aren’t also deserving of women’s rights. I’ve seen this on social media many times – I think it’s US accounts. I don’t understand why they think people who don’t believe in gender theory don’t believe black women are women. This is so weird.”
“Saying that black women look like men and sometimes are men is so infuriating. And they are woke and inclusive. Pathetic.”
“Too many public figures e.g. Peter Tatchell) use black women as ‘a type of women, like trans women’. It’s disgraceful. Also women from traditional religions e.g. Muslim women can’t share spaces with males, but transactivists seem to think this is fine to impose on them.”
“The constant comparison of black women to men, to justify men’s claims to being women, is disgusting and should not be tolerated.”
“Activists seem to view white women as the default. I’ve been accused of white feminism before because I don’t centre men. As if only white women are concerned about men in their spaces? I’m fed up with the various attempts to wedge ‘transwomen’ in as a category of women is telling. ‘Cis women, lesbian women, transwomen, black women’. As if any kind of man was like any kind of woman. I’m always surprised that charities such as Action Aid will campaign for single sex toilets in developing countries, recognising that girls need safe spaces in order to complete their education and participate in life, but in the West it’s ok for men to identify as women and enter our safe spaces: there is an implicit assumption that western (mainly white) men are somehow less likely to attack women. It’s so racist.”
“I hate it when people say that trans women are like black women – that they are also a different kind of woman, like trans identified men, and that women are afraid of them.”
“Gender identity rhetoric is parasitic. It colonizes and absorbs and rebrands everything. It invisibilizes and silences legitimate racial issues. There can be no discourse with centering trans dogma.”
“I hate that people use the insulting idea of black women being somehow another ‘kind’ of woman – like trans women. It also concerns me that people liken wanting sex segregated bathrooms to wanting racially segregated bathrooms. I do feel vulnerable to the whole ‘white women’s tears’ thing. It seems everyone is looking for any excuse to put ‘Karen’ back in her place.”
“Not surprising that people who hold women in contempt also hold people of other races in contempt. They consider both as just an identity they can wave about when it suits them.”
“I’ve encountered the idea that black women are more ‘masculine’, which is outrageous. It does seem as if race is being played as an additional ‘card’ in the ideological message to shout down anyone who argues that biology is real and immutable. I’ve also noticed that many so-called trans women are fully intact white men with a strong sense that they are entitled to invade women-only spaces, which is also outrageous.”
“Others have phrased it better, but it is racist to claim black women are the same as literal males.”
“I belong to an indigenous ethnicity (Maori) in my country (New Zealand). Middle class woke people love to appropriate my culture and claim that it historically (and currently) celebrates multiple genders. There is simply no evidence for this (e.g. Maori had no written language in pre-European times and oral histories are largely silent on the concept of gender and/or aren’t that reliable). In fact there are aspects of Maori culture that I think would tend not to support gender ideology: the idea of the body and especially private parts as tapu (in this sense meaning sacred, and not to be messed with), the sacredness of the womb as the house of future generations.”
“I’ve been called a racist and a bigot despite having two black sons, I’m also amazed at the ideas now emerging that people can identify as black or disabled etc.”
“POCs and minority groups are often used to prop up TRA arguments. These are often disparaging toward black women, or totally misinterpret / appropriate traditions from indigenous or Eastern cultures.”
“I dislike the disingenuous comparison between gender critical views and racism.”
“The way trans privilege activists liken black women to trans identifying males is abhorrent. Women are people with a female body. That’s it.”
“Men trying to claim ‘black’ is the same as the prefix ‘trans’ before the noun ‘woman’ get away with it over and over again. They should be banned from social media every time they attempt this ‘comparison’.”
“This lobby uses black and disabled bodies to gain social currency. It’s quite evident, yet embraced.”
“Men who pretend to be women often say things that dehumanize women of colour. They claim that they’re women in the way that black women are women! They want black mothers to be called black birthing bodies. And then hold up black men who pretend to be women as a shield against debate! It’s honestly the mixed racism and misogyny that black women in North America (maybe other places too) have been dealing with for centuries but worse because everyone is pandering to these evil idiots and congratulating themselves for being anti-racist.”
“The idea that men can be women because at one point in history, black women were not perceived as women, is one of the most blatantly racists ideas I’ve ever heard. In fact, it’s one of the arguments that made me pause and think about gender ideology movement as a whole.”
“Any time you bring up trans identifying men, they bring up how white women can be racist towards black women. Or they act like black women are manly and therefore trans women are actual women? Or how about how FFS is based on white euro-centric beauty ideals? It really just feeds into the black women are actually manly rhetoric.”
“I just find it so egregious and disgusting. The fact that the blatant racism has not damned this ideology from the start shows how much work there is still to be done on racial justice.”
“Just as the gender identity rhetoric is based around gender stereotypes so are there ethnic and national stereotypes at play.”
“Just that it’s ironic that the race card is played when it’s largely a white male movement.”
“There are basically two kinds of anti-GC insult. (1) Terfs are Nazis. (2) Terfs hate trans people. (1) is ironic as many transwomen admit to having found their way to trans status from MRA/white supremacist activism or engagement. Terfs are told that we are all old white feminists who hate black people and especially black transwomen. We are told this on the basis of nothing whatsoever. I really struggle even to understand some of the abuse heaped on GC feminists, it is so convoluted and incoherent.”
“University College Union has just announced members can identify as black. Can you imagine if prisoners were allowed to identify as black to screw the statistics when entering prison? Is that worse of better than women in prisons being raped by males with male genitals entering women’s prisons because they feel like women (post rape conviction and post murder conviction).”
“I’m Asian and there’s a bizarre racist discourse that only White feminists are critical of the gender identity rhetoric.”
“Saying the trans women are women in the same way black women are women is incredibly racist. This is what trans activists do.”
“When trans identified men are compared to black women as a gotcha, it demonstrates their thoughts about women who are not white. It’s pure racism.”
“Black women experience a lot of prejudice, and I find it disgusting that some people use this prejudice to suggest that black women were ever not considered women. Part of the struggle of black women is, and has always been, the fact that they are women- and the physical vulnerability, medical ignorance, and reproductive exploitation that comes with that. It also appears that ‘transphobia’ is being portrayed as equally bigoted and ignorant as racism, which is doubly disturbing considering how the same people co-opting anti-racism to protect themselves often have a history of racist ideology (though I admit this is only anecdotal and I have no solid evidence for it).”
“I’m tired of men using black women as some kind of tool to further their own fake womanhood. I’m tired of men comparing their lack of access to women’s spaces to Jim Crow and apartheid.”
“I think the trans movement (Not all trans people) uses race as a kind of virtue signalling. They never produce any evidence of how or why people of colour who are trans are better treated by trans than LGB – they work entirely on stereotypes.”
“I see some of this on social media where women of colour as used to illustrate transphobia by describing them as an example of a subset of women in the same way as transactivists say that trans identified men are a subset of women.”
“There appears to be a lot of racism from trans activists, and even NGOs, both in suggesting that black women and males identifying as women are “the same” and campaigning for males to access female toilets, etc. in Europe, North America and Australia while simultaneously campaigning for separate sex toilets in Africa and Asia.”
“It is absurd that racism is given a free pass when it comes to gender identity rhetoric when it would be considered abhorrent in any other situation.”
“Black women are real women. Asian women are real women. Women with Pcos are real women.”
“I think the black / brown chevron on the flag is gross and suggests BLM supporters must be behind LGBT gender ideology, whilst receiving little reciprocal support and in fact many racist views.”
“Intersectional feminism etc., etc., but considering what we already know about how much black women’s reported pain/symptoms are overlooked (or misunderstood) by doctors, how can this end well for young black girls deciding to transition?”
“There is the constant implication that black women are not properly women, by comparing trans women to black women and saying “they’re just a different kind of woman, like black women,” which is extremely racist. There is the racism against black women who are gender critical, implying they are the brainwashed tools of white women who are gender critical feminists. This is, again, unbelievably racist. There is the co-option of other cultures’ traditions around gender in order to falsely claim them in order to promote transgender ideology. Again, incredibly racist. There is also the colonialist export of Western gender identity ideology to non-Western countries, which, again, is a form of linguistic and cultural colonialism which is extremely racist.”
“It angers me that gender ideologues equate their experience with racism.”
“I don’t like how anti-racist movements are forced to prioritize trans people. I don’t like that men are being validated as women (trans women) because black women are considered unworthy of protection or value: i.e. black women have been deemed unfeminine so trans women face a “similar struggle”. I detest that successful black female athletes are being classed with male athletes as if myths about black women’s bodies are true. I hate that legitimate concerns about reproductive healthcare for Black and Latina women are being co-opted to include trans issues.”
“Using black women is gross.”
“The language by TAs that want to conflate millennia of racism and white supremacists with TG people, is an affront to POC including TGTS of colour. It’s a form of gaslighting that people of colour are confronted with as if their experience of institutionalised (sic).”
“The lines have been blurred, trans ideology manipulates race into the gender discussion.”
“I am a black woman and I hate how the struggle for black liberation has been used by the trans movement to further their agenda. Black women are often disrespected by trans women and racist rhetoric.”
“Forced teaming is disrespectful of the struggles people face from racism. Gender ideology is patronising & colonizing of anti racism movements, borrowing memes & discarding when no longer useful. GI is parasitic.”
“How do you describe the feeling of watching a white, middle class man who identified as a woman (who only moments before bragged about making $125.00/hour) call a Black woman a “white feminist bigot” for defending the right to attend female-only events & be supported by an abusive social media pile-on? Or daily seeing Black women reduced to a subset of women in the same way that men are a subset of women? Certainly, there has been worse overt racism, but the ongoing message that Black women are equated with men is infuriating.”
“It’s a function of intersectionality bullshit that can include patronising dismissal of family focussed and socially conservative members of ethnic minorities.”
“Transgender seems to be paving the way to transracial, which suggests there’s a strategy to trans other groups/characteristics such as age (leading to paedophilia) and species (bestiality). The whole campaign appears to have two aims: 1) to make a lot of money from gullible young people’s lifelong dependence on medication, and 2) to create access to dependent, compliant, sexualised children and young people, grooming them and their parents.”
“My friends who are POC feel especially like the two struggles have been jammed together but they are in no way the same yet if they say that they are the one to be corrected or called out.”
“The Women’s Equality Party sandwiches men who identify as women between disabled women and black women. They talk about disabled women, transwomen and black women as demographics who are disadvantaged. They do this deliberately. It comes across as “well if black women are women, then of course men can be women also”. Hugely racist.”
“They have to hang their hats on anti racists movements resulting in feminists being accused of racism for standing up.”
“It’s the ultimate in white male privilege to claim anyone can self ID as a woman and have complete access to our safe spaces, services and language.”
“When we are told men are women because black women are women I find it literally incredible that people don’t see the racism.”
“The trans activist movement has been moving into ‘transracialism for some time. For example the UCU’s (lecturers’ union) statement of inclusion of 2019 says “UCU has a long history (from predecessor unions) of enabling members to self-identify whether that is being black, disabled, LGBT+ or women.” Once you start denying one reality you can deny others. It is a bully’s charter.”
“It’s disgusting that trans activists seem to equate men who identify as women as the same as black women in particular.”
“Comparing black women to men is in my opinion appallingly racist.”
“It’s disturbing how accepted this is, in many cases it reveals how hypocritical some people are and it suggests a lot of “activists” are merely social tourists who jump from one cause to the next.”
“Trans Activists often compare WoC to Trans women. It’s wrong and it’s offensive.”
“I’m astonished by how blatant the racism is in gender identity ideology, e.g. “if black women are women, then [men] are women” rhetoric that is always said by activists. It’s unbelievable that they get away with that.”
“Yes this language puts WOC against men. They are female these ppl Are racist.”
“It’s a feature of genderism as is homophobia and misogyny. 3 defining characteristics. Misogynoir is deeply embedded. Black women are constantly compared with men, constantly denigrated as a sub-set of woman. And told that trans identifying men are the same as black women i.e. a subset. Totally racist and misogynist to state black women are a subset of their own sex. Bloody awful. Also told that the immutable and binary nature of human sex is in fact colonial, white supremacist social construct. It’s is suggested that there was some pre – colonial utopia populated by black people who had no idea about human reproduction. Totally racist.”
“”If black women are women, then TW [males] are women” is hugely racist. It is illogical (if females are women, then males are too seems a fair summary) and seems to only serve the purpose of othering black women. The phrase “intersectional feminism” has been taken from black and disabled women and now means “feminism that centres male people.” There’s been no replacement term for this and so any discussion of focusing on genuine intersections with being female has been tarred by association with self ID.”
“The same people who are all about anti racism, cultural appropriation, decolonisation and BLM are all for these things when it comes to trans. Then use other cultures and view them through a western lens. Then force gender on every country like happened during the Olympics. And then there is comparing trans to being black and therefore making being a woman having to do with skin colour. There’s the infantilisation of other cultures as if they couldn’t figure out who are the actual women and procreation was a hit and miss strategy. Unbelievable how racist and blind they are.”
“It is the norm where I live for North American indigenous third sex designations that were designed for homosexual males to be taken as evidence of gender and sex fluidity, and promoted in university classrooms as indisputable historical fact.”
“I see people dehumanising black women, and it makes me fume.”
“I’ve witnessed racist commentary from trans individuals as a result of more gender critical views in the black community.”
“Sex realism is being compared to racism by the Scottish Greens and Stonewall. They compare trans women to black women as comparable classes of womanhood which I find deeply offensive.”
“The most obvious one is the “if black women can be women then so can men be women”. The racism in this – the centuries’ old trope that black women are somehow not “really” women, is just breathtaking.”
“The term “black women are women” I struggle with how they even think because of their skin colour they are not women.”
“The amount of times I have seen trans women are the same as black women is off the scale.”
“People use black women as a comparison to trans women to say that “trans” is a modifier. Historically black women’s femaleness has been questioned as a consequence of racist frameworks.”
“For some reason women who aren’t white are being compared to trans women as if we’re a sub-set of woman/not whole women.”
“It’s so offensive to say that colonisers told indigenous people what Sex is and imposed it on them! And trans women are women the same as black women? Grossly offensive and racist.”
“The existence of the brand of racism in gender identity rhetoric is a distraction that intentionally twists and misunderstands historically racist sentiments, as well as leverages general anti-racism sentiments, to emotionally move people to be pro-gender-ideology. The often trotted out line of “If Black women are women, then trans women are women” forgets that Black women were not “women” because Black people as a whole were not seen as “human” by western society. But the Black women were clearly seen as female based on their treatment.”
“The reliance on comparing black women to trans women is troubling – an example of misogynoir.”
“I’ve seen a lot of racist arguments deployed by Trans Rights Activists. It’s genuinely revolting. Black women in particular seem to experience the most harassment for not going along with everything the extreme TRAs say.”
“I volunteer with refugees. Some people in the refugee community have told me they find the idea of gender identity bewildering and the concerns around freedom of speech/ hate crime very concerning.”
“I have seen racism compared to GC beliefs. They aren’t comparable. Gender ideology however is inherently racist. White middle aged men, who identify as women, retain their privilege and use this to claim to be the most oppressed in society. More oppressed than any other group. But they are in fact white middle aged men in 80% of cases. Everyone knows they are, you can see it. Hear it. They are using their positions to oppress us. Black people are accused of punching down on white middle aged men. Black women who really do have double oppression are now considered above poor white, middle class men, who feel like women. We are compelled to lie and call them women used forced speech using pronouns. What about Muslim women and other religions that prevent exposure to male bodied people? Should these women be forced to accept that men with penises who identify as women, actually are women? To lie? To pretend? For the age old benefit of the privileged man in charge. The man, taking awards which are earmarked just for women. Jobs intended only for women, being given to men who feel like women. It is horrific and I don’t want to live anymore.”
“Just that I am a black woman.”
“The attempt to correlate black women with transwomen is shocking.”
“A common line from gender extremists is that if black women are women, so are transwomen. I can’t imagine what it feels like for a black woman to read that. I’m also concerned about the dismissal of us feminism as ‘white feminism’. Not only is this manifestly untrue, there is an inherent negative value judgement on the value of a woman based on her skin colour.”
“When the slogan TWAW is used and they say trans identified men are like other women e.g. black or disabled, I am very concerned at the racism that is based in. It dehumanises both black women and disabled women. They are not men who identify, they are women.”
“Their constant use of tokenism, parasiting off credible anti-racist movements, and weird ahistorical messages about how colonialism invented the sex binary, or how the simple natives had 76 genders, it’s all weird takes on race from white people.”
“Comparing apartheid to single sex spaces is used a lot by TRAs. They fail to see that during abhorrent apartheid practices, spaces were still separated into male and female.”
“As a woman of colour, I am particularly concerned at the double standards and hypocrisy of sending gender ideology fundamentalists into schools, when no one would blink an eye in preventing Islamic fundamentalists into schools. I really believe now that the extreme speed in the growth of GI fundamentalism is directly related to the advances in society that have taken place particularly in the last decade in response to other discrimination in particularly race, and to a lesser degree disability. People without oppressions to supposedly fast track them into the spotlight, have found in GI a way to position themselves as an oppressed minority or a defender of such. I also feel that communities such as the South Asian communities who wish to continue to meet and undertake activities in single sex spaces, whether as part of the religious or cultural tradition are now being told that if they self exclude on the basis that these spaces are now open to male bodied people then that’s their problem.”
“It’s enabling racists to categorise e.g. black women as a subset of women, like transwomen are presented as a type of woman, it’s othering (this also applies to women in general).”
“The use of racist tropes is, in my opinion, a symptom of the lack of critical thought by the genderists rather than a foundational concept. Although it is disgusting, it’s part of their arsenal in the same way that they write feminists off as old and right wing.”
“The frequent trope that black women are a type of women like trans women are. Racist nonsense black women are women like disabled women white women and Irish women are women. Trans women are men, that black women are singled out like this brings up some very dark racist history. Women who have been outspokenly gc and who are black seem to get an extra dose aggressive attacks on social media. Some have been hounded out of their jobs. This is trans racialism at work.”
“There appears increasingly to be a hierarchy within gender identity rhetoric, whereby darker skin tones & non-anglophone “indigenous people” are in some way more deserving of special rights compared to those of South Asian, Middle East or Asian ethnicities.”
“Race has nothing to do with women’s need for single-sex spaces, and should not be used as an argument. Those who use it show complete lack of understanding the issues women face.”
“The suggestion is often repeated that if black, disabled or infertile women are women, so are transwomen.”
“As far as I can tell, gender identity seems to be spearheaded by white middle class men. I suspect that their zealotry may in some way be a reaction to feeling excluded/ dubbed over-privileged by the anti-racism movement. Claiming trans or non-binary status gives them a niche which may counterbalance that and gives them a feeling of being cutting-edge, relevant and also gives them a ‘struggle’ to participate in.”
“Any time an org says “including Trans women, Black women, disabled women” I instantly feel my hackles rise. Women of any religion, colour or disability are women. Men are not.”
“I see a lot of unchallenged assertions that people in countries previously colonised by white Europeans did not understand sex differences. And a lot comparing “trans women” to black women and presenting each group as an alternative to white women. Black women in particular are often compared to men and this seems more common when those men identify as women. All of these seem to be an attempt to derationalise people of colour and defeminise black women in particular.”
“It’s hypocrisy. Genderists constantly compare women-only spaces to racial segregation, but say nothing about the “segregation” practiced by BAME-only social and professional groups who explicitly exclude other racial groups – as is their right, of course.”
“I have seen online trans activists and men who identify as women say they should be given access to female spaces as they are as much women as black women are. This is vile.”
“I hate to see males compared to black women as just another subset of women.”
“The ideology runs rough shod over other groups – I’m not aware that it is racist too but believe it is definitely homophobic and sexist – the problem is it changes all the time so I wouldn’t be surprised!”
“It seems that white males are always the history writers and agenda setters.”
“There is a bigger problem – poverty – just go to Nicola Sturgeons constituency Govanhill – poor , black, ethnic, – all being neglected as Nicola is only concerned in getting this Self ID through. Petrifying in itself. If you can go there and see the back of Victoria Road.”
“The way TRAs use lists like trans women, black women, disabled women is disgraceful. It says black women are not women. It’s deeply racist and I’m surprised more is not said about it.”
“Accusations of racism have been used twice to shut me down on gender ideology.”
“Activists compare transwomen with black women. It’s disgusting to be accused of racism when I purely believe we are united as a sex class.”
“Gender critical black women seem to be particularly attacked on this issue.”
“It shocks me how these people can pretend to be so inclusive whilst spouting racist comments, most of the time without even realizing they are doing it.”
“It’s a tenuous link but in some respect can seem credible under the lens of the far right. The fact this is being exploited and used against women who have a history of political activism including anti racism is quite shocking.”
“I see Black lesbians getting attacked, and TRAs spreading misinformation about racism.”
“Black women are repeatedly compared to men in gender identity rhetoric.”
“It’s part and parcel of the stereotyping of women in general. That femininity/womanhood comes in only a limited number of types.”
“I am white but realise that gender ideology is being used to fragment women’s groups and undermine solidarity. The insult of ‘white feminism’ and the related suggestion that transwomen are women in the same way that black women are women are an insidious way to distract us from the common threat that all women face, and the solidarity that is necessary for us to deal with it.”
“As a black woman it is absolutely insulting to hear tra’s argue that we have never been seen as women. We have ALWAYS been seen as women. But we were seen as BLACK WOMEN. It also downplays the misogyny black women face from black men throughout history. The fact that we are female has always been recognized and caused us to be abused in ways only women can be. In college it concerned me that young black women seemed to be othering themselves in activism for themselves. No longer could you just talk about the black women being oppressed. You had to make the disclaimed that black trans women are the most oppressed women. It really feels like black women are being enticed to believe that the effort they put in to queer ideology is going to help them in the end. But it’s just making it more difficult for us to focus on ourselves for once.”
“There is a lot of talk about the fact that black woman are accepted as woman means men should be too. This is racist and frankly so disgusting I am shocked that it is accepted rhetoric.”
“They say things like “if you don’t let trans women play sports, it will lead to black women not being able to play sports” as if black women are remotely similar to MEN?? No way. Another racist argument I see from trans rights activists is this: “Separating trans women from cis women in prisons and sports is SEGREGATION.” I have only heard this argument from white people, and it is an atrocious diminishment of what real segregation and Jim Crowe laws entailed. Keeping women safe (especially knowing women of color are over represented in the prison system, at least in the US) is imperative. Validating men’s feelings or identify is not.”
“The ideas that black women are in some way ‘like men’, or are only women in the same way that men are women, is deeply racist and disturbing. As for ‘black birthing bodies’ – I am disgusted.”
“So tired of seeing the intersectional feminist mantra that all women are women, black women, disabled women, trans women. It’s insulting to black women and disabled women, suggesting they are a sub class of women who are not equal and also that they equate to men pretending to be women.”
“Black women are being described as having male features. we are told if we accept black women as women, why don’t we accept men. Ridiculous and racist.”
“By linking Gender Critical views to racism then the idea is to make valid views unacceptable. A woman of colour is a woman. A man of colour who identifies as a woman is still a man. It’s like comparing apples and potatoes. They are different.”
“The comparison of men who want to be women with black women (just ‘types’) and statements that black women are often masculine are offensive.”
“The forced changing of Spanish by white English speakers is racist.”
“Hugely offensive to try to place black and minority women as equivalent to men identifying as women.”
“Trans rights is used to undermine anti-racism and anti-colonialism organizing and organizers.”
“The idea that black women are less women than white women is offensive. The idea that transwomen are less women than real women is not offensive, because they are not women.”
“Racism is systemic and needs to be looked at and dealt with everywhere. However, I think it’s a weapon of the TRAs to call us all “racist” as a catchphrase.”
“People of all races are gender critical and we need every voice.”
“I hate the comparison between Black women (and disabled women) and transwomen. Black women have always been women and have been exploited by white men. Using them as a way to try to shore up their weak argument is more exploitation.”
“Comparing black women to trans-identifying males – there is no comparison. Listing “black women” alongside “trans women” is disgusting – a woman is a woman, whatever skin colour she might have. While non-white women will have experience of different issues in the West (just as non-native races experience different treatment outside the West, e.g. in China), they are women, whereas a man cannot be a woman.”
“I think in the oppression Olympics black lesbians get the worst deal.”
“I am Eurasian and Muslim so have been assumed to be gender-critical because of my racial and religious background i.e. my unavoidable stupidity. Perhaps I escape the epithet ‘TERF’ but it is no compliment when assumed to be due to lack of education/ cultural backwardness/ male indoctrination etc.”
“I am Mexican, and there is culturally a LOT of homophobia, which is why I feel this has grown SO much in my population as well as other not so friendly LGB minority populations.”
“It is unacceptable to say that referring to men as “trans” women is the same as referring to black women, as if “trans” is an adjective.”
“Comparing black women to men is a racist trope. Harassing women working to end FGM, for example, is beyond the pale.”
“Women as a sex are half the global population. The majority are not white. Citing trans women and black women as similar sub groupings of women is racist because it assumes that the ‘norm’ for women is white. Gender identity theory also argues only white women care about conflicts between gender identity & sex which denies agency to black & brown women campaigning globally on these issues.”
“I am sick of the ‘would you exclude black women’ being presented as some sort of gotcha. No, because they’re women! TRAs equating black women to men – because as adult males they ARE men – just really fucks me off. So disrespectful to black women, and yes – so fucking racist!”
“I find comparisons with ‘apartheid’ & racism deeply offensive. Gender ideology extremists do not understand how the comparison & power balance make the argument ridiculous. For instance black people should be free to organise groups exclusive to themselves without Rachel Dolezal type trans racial people being involved.”
“Black women are being used to further the gender identity cause. I find this insulting and derogatory. The problems encountered by black people are not the same as those suffered by trans people.”
“It boils my absolute piss that they lump Black women in with transvestite men or say being Black is like being intersex because racist people think these women are “masculine” or some shit.”
“The trope used by trans activists that transwomen are women in the same way that black women are women is massively racist. Black women are not another ‘type’ of women, they are simply women.”
“It is extremely offensive to link/use black women as a prop/gotcha by claiming that black women are women just like trans women! No-one except the TRAs are claiming or inferring that black women are any different from any other woman of any other race or creed women is a sex class not a feeling in some man’s brain.”
“Comparing women wanting sex specific services to apartheid is racist; also in Australia Aboriginal people do already have “race” specific health services as they are in the oppressed class and don’t always feel comfortable in mainstream services; claiming black women as a type of woman not only places white women as the default but also of course misses the point that we are all women – not men.”
“Trans activists claim that transwomen are a subset of women “the same way that black women are a subset of women.” Black women are just fully women, not a damned subset.”
“Yes to compare black women to a male who identifies as a woman is massively offensive. To imply that if a black woman can be a real woman then so can a male is massively offensive.”
“The comparison of the acceptance of women of colour with that of men who identify as women is beyond contempt.”
“The deliberate confusing of racism with sexism is purposely confusing. Those are two separate issues. The TRAs tend to be racist right wing men to begin with.”
“Positioning white middle class men as the most marginalised ever by Kier was galling and dangerous.”
“All the rhetoric ignores the actual voices and experiences of women of different races and cultures while simultaneously claiming to stand for them.”
“I don’t have the words. The gender identity rhetoric a cynical and aggressive men’s rights movement that underpins decency and the safety of all women. Racism should not be tolerated in civilised society. I believe this movement tries to divide women.”
“Frequently see trans identified males ‘othering’ black women. Antisemitism is also rife.”
“Re-writing Indigenous history and cultural narratives to validate ideas about a ‘third sex’ or transgenderism is dishonest and a new form of colonialism.”
“I’ve seen so much rhetoric comparing black women to men and I’m just supposed to shut up and say nothing because even implying that men’s bodies are different than woman is pure bigotry in the trans rights movement.”
“I think the level of racism in gender identity rhetoric has increased as more and more women of color from around the world have begun to speak out against it.”
“As a woman of color, the amount of racism I see from trans activists is much more than from conservatives and self-proclaimed racists.”
“It seems to do more harm to society as a whole because it’s promoting race divide, adding fuel to the fire, by throwing women on that fire as unproven racists.”
“I think the movement is indirectly Islamophobic, how can a Muslim woman work in the prison service or policing if they may have to search a male person claiming to be female? Use a mixed sex changing room etc.”
“It’s abhorrent that they project their own racism onto our cause. That they don’t even see that makes it even more infuriating.”
“Conflating black women with trans women in particular is hugely offensive. They are women, not a different type, just actual women, no matter the colour of their skin.”
“It’s beyond disgusting to me that black people, particularly black women, are used as a ‘gotcha’ in these debates by trans activist groups.”
“Racism runs through it like lettering in a stick of rock. Race is cast as a binary and sex as a continuum which is not only starkly untrue, it is hugely regressive and damaging.”
“The extreme fringes of the trans rights activism movement appears to believe that people can also be trans race (and indeed trans age). BAME people do not have the opportunity to identify out of their oppression. Rather it always seems to be those speaking from white privilege who appropriate the identities of those from more oppressed backgrounds.”
“One of the most offensive aspects of this, is that TRA try to create categories of women i.e.: Muslim women, black women, cis women, trans women. There is no sub-category of women – we are all women. Trans women are a sub-category of men. I have everything in common with black, Asian, European, Muslim, Christian women – we are all disadvantaged and oppressed (in different ways), because of our female biology. Racism within gender identity rhetoric is intended to divide women because collectively we’re 51% of the population, and we would be too strong if we all stood together.”
“I think gender ideology has done an excellent job of painting gc women as white feminists and thus bad when many of them aren’t white or bad. I agree with intersectionality when it comes to women and race, as a middle class white woman it’s obvious that a working class black woman will have different challenges. I think linking black women alongside trans women is however far more racist and yet is a common trope on the other side.”
“This is a white men’s movement. Predominantly by and for white middle class men.”
“I’m very concerned trans identifying males using female facilities effectively exclude some Muslim and Jewish women.”
“Black women are not a subset of the female sex. It is fascinating to me that the majority of gender activists are white and university educated.”
“On a personal level, there is pretty clearly overlap between male entitlement and incel thinking and right-wing ideology in general. The fact that TRAs feel so free to sweep black women in with them as people whose womanhood is in question is a dead giveaway.”
“Indigenous peoples, including my own ancestors, having a third socially-constructed gender role for gender nonconforming, gay and lesbian individuals does not mean our ancestors did not know or acknowledge their sex. It’s colonial exploitation of other cultures to fuel a misogynistic agenda when this rhetoric claims two-spirit individuals as a reason why they should be allowed to run roughshod over women’s spaces and legal rights.”
“Comparing gender critical/radical feminists to racists/ nazis is outrageous and a lie.”
“This shows itself as primarily a movement to reduce limits on white males’ sexual expression. So called transwomen constantly argue that ” if black women are women, so are trans”. No. Any female human is a woman. We share oppression due to our sex, our cultures and black women are more at risk than white women. White men claiming a special inner identity are always elevated over black women.”
“Well, the entire gender identity concept (I will not dignify it with the word debate) seems to be white males enabling other white males to use their privilege to deny their privilege. Assisted by enabling handmaidens.”
“Muslim women in particular are being labelled transphobic because they need women only spaces to participate in things like sport.”
“I’ve seen racism being used within the context of gender identity, conflating race with perceived transphobia.”
“The way the two are conflated is so racist and insulting to black women.”
“I am black American woman and it is very disturbing for me to see the resurgence of racism against black women in progressive movements and spaces.”
“It gets used to conflate the two issues which I take offence to. I am mixed race.”
“It is disgusting how race is used as a sort of ‘gotcha’ i.e. if you don’t accept trans women are women you don’t accept black women are women.”
“These people argue if we don’t think trans women are women we will also exclude black women. Horrible projection and racism.”
“I believe that gender extremists are racist, misogynist & homophobic. They use racial issues as a cover for all 3.”
“Rachel Donezal was slammed for trying to ” pass” as Black, but Male to Females have infiltrated almost every one of our Lesbian and Female spaces and often gotten away with it. Then they scream we are equivalent to racists if we don’t want them in our Female or Lesbian spaces, groups, Festivals, bathrooms, locker rooms, homeless or battered women’s shelters, prisons etc. Mtfs are capable of the same male criminality as any other males with even a slight leaning to greater sexual and physical violence. It is racist to put mtf prisoners in with bio females, exposing them to male criminal and sexual violence as has been documented in both England and the US. It also silences minority females and their needs to give ” trans” women more attention than they receive. He CHOOSES to transition. She IS both minority and Female. And it takes away from Female Minority issues by saying trans women are the most murdered and oppressed in the world, whereas the murdered and missing Native/ First Nations women number in the thousands, nor are the perpetrators caught or the issue resolved. Intersectionality does NOT always need to intersect with penises.”
“It is surely not ok to always say trans woman must be included in feminism just as black women must be. Trans women are not women.”
“I have Muslim friends terrified of this ideology.”
“I find it particularly abhorrent that black women, given the extent of their ongoing oppression, are co-opted by pro-gender identity activists in support of their TWAW mantra i.e. if black women are women, then so are trans women. It makes me sick to my stomach.”
“I’ve heard of women of colour being referred to as if we are not women. It’s disgusting.”
“I am horrified by the use of phrases like “trans women are women like black women are women”. This is racist terminology as it equates womanhood with femininity and others women of colour. I am also concerned that wanting male free areas for undressing is being equated with the segregation of black people. Males are the oppressor group not the oppressed.”
“I don’t believe that women, even racist women, ever thought that black or brown women were not women.”
“White men in dresses are not more oppressed than Black women or men.”
“They compare race to gender in a really offensive way. A black woman is a woman. A transwoman is male. They are not the same.”
“The statement that sex is a “white colonial construct invented by European colonizers” is completely racist. It suggests that men and women in the global south did not know what sex is before Europeans came along to tell them.”
“(1) the behaviour of TRAs to survivors of FGM is grotesque (2) the ‘othering’ of women of colour (e.g. trans women are as much women as Black women) is ridiculous. It and associated rhetoric or tropes demonstrate ignorance and racism all the time. (3) why is Caitlyn Jenner a hero while Rachel Dolzael is the devil? There is an implicit racism (‘the exotic, incorruptible noble savage’) in the failure to make the equation. Of course and in fact both are unacceptable.”
“I think using racism is a ruse to divert attention away from the real problem in gender identity rhetoric.”
“Black women are frequently compared to trans identifying men – it’s shocking.”
“The racist trope of black women being like men seems to be common in gender ideology.”
“Black women are women.”
“Black women not feeling part of the feminist movement. A continual comparison between trans men being women just like black women are women. The white trans Netflix writer of a black show cancelling Chappell.”
“I see racism in people being overly concerned with “black trans women” who are pretty much gay black men LARPing as women — that people don’t see that it harms black men to think that it’s a good idea for them to pretend to be women.”
““If you let black women be women why not let males be women?” This implies BW = Male. It also states that W is not a biological category.”
“Gender ideologists seem to use race as a weapon and piggyback their cause onto racial issues.”
“I’ve seen trans people appropriate cultures – two spirit…etc it’s very bizarre that they claim you can’t change race, but you can identify with a part of someone’s culture and use that to validate yourself. It’s just racist in general and excludes anyone who has been brought up with a religious background. Trans people aren’t asking how Muslim women feel, how Jewish women feel. Any woman really that comes from a background or culture that wants to ensure sex segregation. It means these women will opt out or potentially have to go against their own background. It’s crazy. English is not everyone’s first language and if many British women don’t know what a cervix is, how could anyone who has migrated over and is just coming to grips with this language. Calling us ‘people with cervixes’ will just confuse these women and risk their health. It’s ridiculous because a white man who has had every privilege and benefit of being a man can now say he’s more oppressed than a woman, let alone a woman of colour or a woman that’s same sex attracted.”
“I listen to what black women and women of colour say about this and it deeply concerns me. I want to support them if I can.”
“I’m white so I’m not the best person to ask, but a number of activists use the “at one time black women were considered less, so trans women are similar”. This is horrific racism.”
“I do think it’s disgusting to see frequently even respected commentators liken men who pretend to be women with black women. I can’t think of it as anything but gross racism and using black women as a shield.”
“I find it deeply offensive when people conflate racism with being gender critical by making statements about trans women being women just like black women and other ethnic minorities. Women understand that the only descriptor required to be considered a woman is that they are female. Nobody in their right mind would say BAME women are not women. I don’t understand how anyone can think differently and separate BAME women from the general descriptor of women.”
“It is preposterous to equate the inclusion of black women in feminism with that of males, whether they call themselves trans or not. Black women are my sisters by default. Men are not my sisters by default. This should be obvious.”
“They are always comparing their made up oppression to that of black people and it’s revolting!”
“As a white person I don’t feel right doing this. But I do wonder why so many trans seem to be white males.”
“Lots of people equating trans women to black women like other women are a subset of women, it is so infuriating to read this and if you call it out you are in the wrong and transphobic!”
“The co-option of cultural practices/sex roles from other countries and indigenous people.”
“The constant comparison to racism and the struggle of minority communities is disingenuousness of the highest order!”
“Black women are othered by tras, e.g. they will say if a black woman is a woman then so is a trans woman. They have no insight or shame about saying this.”
“The use of black, poor and disabled women as props to claim space for males who wish to be perceived as women bothers me greatly. It sets different groups of women in competition with one another.”
“I have lost count of how many times I’ve seen them say “if a black woman is a woman, so is a trans woman.” The absolute insanity of it!”
“It’s yet another tool used to gag and censor rational arguments.”
“Black birthing bodies…overtones of slavery.”
“Trans activists often pivot to race to make their point. Wider society conflate trans movement with other civil rights movement.”
“Men larping as women being excluded from women’s spaces have absolutely nothing in common with the oppression of all blacks or the exclusion of black women from racist spaces.”
“To say that “trans women” are like black women and that excluding “trans women” is like apartheid or Jim Crow Laws is obviously racist but mostly done by those who no one would take seriously. The policies enacted are mainly sexist and/or misogynist.”
“The argument that it’s just “white women” complaining from our privilege. And arguments comparing trans identifying males struggles with the real ones of BAME women is offensive.”
“I believe that racism colours and increases the intensity of the negativity expressed towards ‘non-trans-affirming’ women. So women and people – particularly women – of colour, are classed as inferior to white men.”
“Trans is presented as subcategory of women among others like black women. or disabled women. Ridiculous and shows thought patterns of TRAs, their actual attitude towards women.”
“Comparing “trans women” to black women is revolting and is, sadly, extremely common among people not very familiar with these issues.”
“It upsets me when Trans Activists try to compare black women to trans identifying males- and when they compare single sex spaces to racial segregation.”
“Comparing being ‘gender critical’ to antisemitism is beyond shocking (and that’s just one part of it).”
“Pretending a descriptor like ‘black’ is the same as trans for women is shockingly racist and dehumanising but I see it said a lot from people with BLM in their profiles.”
“Gender ideology is kidnapping antiracist movement to maintain racial inequalities.”
“Trans activists and supporters stating “trans women’ is the same as “black women” erases the struggle that black women have in society, the double-whammy of prejudice they experience by being female and black. As ‘trans’ is a state of mental confusion, it is not the same thing at all.”
“Black women (like lesbian women) are too often used as a political pawn by trans activists. So often we see “trans woman are women in the same way as black/lesbian women are women” it’s disgraceful racism/homophobia that so called progressives seem to ignore.”
“It is insane to use women of colour in an argument to prove men are women.”
“I was outraged by the SNP mp who said transwomen were as much women as black women are – some kind of sub human biology comparison. And by the treatment of Alison Bailey.”
“I find it outrageous that activists can say that trans women are as much women as Black women. This is nonsense and fully racist. Black women are women. Trans women are trans women and as such are male. This plays into the racist idea that Black women are somehow less women than white women, an idea that has absolutely no place in a civilised society.”
“Trans activists quite often compare trans ideology to the segregation of black people and imply that the inclusion of black women in the term “woman” means that males should also be included. I find this so regressive and disturbing that these people are unable to see how racist they are being by othering women of differing skin colours when being a woman is nothing more than being an adult human female.”
“I get the feeling that some TRAs see black women as less than human. This seems to be more predominant in the USA.”
“I find comparing black women to men – in the (untrue)argument that GC women would have tried to keep black women out of women’s toilets in the past – deeply racist, it’s a worrying ‘othering’ of black women. I also find ‘black birthing bodies’ a disgusting phrase, which seems entirely like the sort of dehumanising language of slavery.”
“In my opinion, it has been a deliberate ploy by advocates of transgenderism to link criticism of transgender ideology with right-wing opinion and racism. Since a debate is now happening, despite the ‘no debate’ slogan, smear tactics are now being used.”
“I worry that racism, like sexism, is a real and present danger in our society and it’s getting harder to deal with because of the politically motivated weaponisation of several discrimination/oppression issues, not just gender. It feels like a real mire”.